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What prophetic destiny/promise ?
That was already done by Reagan in the 80's.This is one reason I'd like to see legal immigration more easily accessible to more people. You're right that illegal immigrants are easily exploited with low wages, because it's dangerous to complain about their employers. I'd much rather see the people currently in those jobs gain access to legal residency status, where they'd be protected by minimum wage and other workplace laws.
I don't feel the need to keep immigrants at the same kind of distance. I would certainly welcome immigrants into my neighborhood, help them move in, help them figure out how to get an American driver's license, help them get enrolled in the local schools if needed, and things like that. If we do it right, 5 or 10 years from now they won't be poor any more.
A big factor in my personal life, and a big part of the context out of which I write, is that I work at a university. About half of the faculty in my department are immigrants. Some come from countries that are fine to live in but small, and the US offers more opportunities for research collaboration. Some come from politically unstable countries, and here in the US they can go about their work without worrying about a dictator or a military coup disrupting their lives. A number of my students are immigrants as well; some are here just for the cosmopolitan experience, but others come from economically or politically unstable countries. These faculty and students are really smart people, making significant contributions to their new nation.
When I picture increased immigration, I'm not looking for thousands of people to live permanently in refugee camps on the outskirts of town. I'm envisioning people who are going to live in homes and go to school and have jobs and pay taxes like the rest of us. From my point of view, that's not a disaster at all.
We live in a world where conquest is how anyone had a hold on anything. There is NO nation on this Earth that wasn't founded on someone conquering someone else. All of humanity is guilty of that.The establishment of the nation was not an exercise of law.
It was conquest ... taking what belonged to other peoples.
We live in a world where conquest is how anyone had a hold on anything. There is NO nation on this Earth that wasn't founded on someone conquering someone else. All of humanity is guilty of that.
The reality is all nations have borders. How they got them is irrelevant because all are guilty. We live with what we have.
I am guessing you are an open borders person and believe in open borders for all countries for people to come and go as they wish. Am I right?
It is a valid question.So you are for open borders then?
Conservatives are right in saying there should be a screening process for prospective immigrants. They are probably also right that we need limits on how many immigrants we can welcome in a given year; if, say, 100 million people wanted to enter the US in a single year, that would probably be more than we could absorb into our country and culture all at once. But I would like to see the procedures and restrictions changes so that we could welcome more immigrants per year than we do now, with full legal status.So you are for open borders then?
Random thoughts?Conquerers respect no borders.
I'm not especially worked up by a peaceful migration of workers ...
Conservatives are right in saying there should be a screening process for prospective immigrants. They are probably also right that we need limits on how many immigrants we can welcome in a given year; if, say, 100 million people wanted to enter the US in a single year, that would probably be more than we could absorb into our country and culture all at once. But I would like to see the procedures and restrictions changes so that we could welcome more immigrants per year than we do now, with full legal status.
In my ideal world, I envision the process of legal immigration as being similar to getting a driver's license. Prospective drivers are screened (through driving courses and driver's tests) to help ensure that they will be safe drivers. But most people who want a driver's license are able to get one within a few years; we don't have a backlog of thousands of people driving without licenses because they were unable to get a license. It's not a perfect analogy, because there's no exact counterpart to the driver's test for immigrants; it would be a background check for criminal records and so on. Still, the principle is that most people who want to enter the US should be able to.
So, not completely open borders, but a border that's much easier to cross legally.
So you are for open borders then?Conquerers respect no borders.
I'm not especially worked up by a peaceful migration of workers ...
It is a valid question.
Do you ever recall getting an answer to that question before?
It kind of gets skipped over most of the times I see it being asked.
So you are for open borders then?
Is a country allowed to realize it's made a mistake. When it does, should it not do what it can to correct that mistake?
No, however, I do think that it is hypocritical to ALLOW millions of migrant workers to cross the border "illegally" (as was the case during past Republican and Democratic administrations), ... and then, at some later point, decide that you want to ship them all back.
For me, a "law" which is not enforced ... is not a "real" law. And the "illegals" were ALLOWED to cross the southern border ... to provide cheap labor for the American farm industry.
Deciding to send them back now ... smacks of hypocrisy.
Kinda like the State Patrol suddenly deciding to enforce the posted speed limit after allowing 10 mph over, just because of an increase in crashes.
So ... you have ALLOWED people to cross your borders with the promise of a BETTER LIFE, and a HOPE for participation in the AMERICAN DREAM ... so that you can USE THEM to provide cheap labor.
Because their entry into the US was illegal, they can't legitimately claim to have been promised anything. Even were it not, it is understood that countries permit foreign nationals inside their borders an their own discretion - they may be asked to leave at any time. Citizens alone have a right to be in the country.
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