Why Republican voters say there’s ‘no way in [you know what]’ Trump lost

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Do you watch the news? If so then you should know that Trump has appealed the PA decision. But if his lawyers continue to present no evidence he isn’t going to get anyplace.
I don't think you can present new evidence before the Supreme Court. They'd have to argue that the judge in the original case, based on the evidence he had seen, made a mistake. Or that he had failed to let them present evidence, in which case I think they'd have to send the case back to the original judge and order him to listen to the evidence.
 
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I don't think you can present new evidence before the Supreme Court. They'd have to argue that the judge in the original case, based on the evidence he had seen, made a mistake. Or that he had failed to let them present evidence, in which case I think they'd have to send the case back to the original judge and order him to listen to the evidence.
Correct. The Supreme Court can also simply refuse to hear an appeal from the Court of Appeals. In addition, there is no requirement that the Court of Appeals rush the case. Trump is running out of time. Pennsylvania will certify its votes on Monday.
 
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I think that was expected. Probably the United States Supreme Court will decide all this.
Or not. Remember the US Supreme Court does not have to hear an appeal.
 
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Yes. But I think they will. Could be wrong but I believe they'll consider it's just too big a thing for them to set aside.
Actually, the Supreme Court does its best to avoid political questions. E.g. that's how it justified the failure to deal with gerrymandering. Their purpose is to deal with constitutional questions. Remember, you can't even present evidence to them, because they're not reviewing evidence. They're reviewing whether courts interpreted the law properly, and whether the law is constitutional. There are no constitutional questions here. There are questions of fact: whether substantial fraud or misbehavior occurred. Their decisions so far have in fact been telling courts to stay out of it, even when they are dealing with disenfranchisement of voters. It is very unlikely that they will intervene, unless they are overtly partisan. I'm still hoping that they are not.
 
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Actually, the Supreme Court does its best to avoid political questions. E.g. that's how it justified the failure to deal with gerrymandering. Their purpose is to deal with constitutional questions. Remember, you can't even present evidence to them, because they're not reviewing evidence. They're reviewing whether courts interpreted the law properly, and whether the law is constitutional. There are no constitutional questions here. There are questions of fact: whether substantial fraud or misbehavior occurred. Their decisions so far have in fact been telling courts to stay out of it, even when they are dealing with disenfranchisement of voters. It is very unlikely that they will intervene, unless they are overtly partisan. I'm still hoping that they are not.
Well Hedrick we'll see what happens.
 
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I don't think you can present new evidence before the Supreme Court. They'd have to argue that the judge in the original case, based on the evidence he had seen, made a mistake. Or that he had failed to let them present evidence, in which case I think they'd have to send the case back to the original judge and order him to listen to the evidence.

Pretty much, yes. The entire function of an appellate court is to argue that a lower court made an error in the law.

If Team Donald had presented actual evidence, and a judge wrongly ruled it inadmissible, then he's have a legitimate case. That didn't happen here.

It seems that Donald is banking on SCOTUS ignoring both the facts and the law and handing him the presidency based on little more than political ideology or personal gratitude... after all, 6 justices are conservatives, and 3 of them were appointed by Donald himself.

This, by itself, would be laughable... except for the disturbing number of Donald's supporters who apparently would be perfectly content with this outcome... Facts, the Law, even the Constitution mean nothing to these people... only glory to Donald in the highest.
 
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I won't claim I understand the answer to that.

You don't understand what you think? The question asked for your opinion.

Surely you have an opinion...
 
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What's it called again when someone does the same thing over and over and over hoping for a different result?

According to Aristotle it's the definition of madness. According to Jesus Christ (Luke 18:1-8) it's the definition of faith. Mind you there's a difference between faith and presumption. God Bless You :)
 
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What, exactly, do you think the Supreme Court is going to do?

If a court were to overturn the apparent result of an election would it not just lead to more difficulties rather than solving them?
 
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If a court were to overturn the apparent result of an election would it not just lead to more difficulties rather than solving them?
This makes excuses for something to be allowed to continue that is wrong.

Would it cause problems? Yes. But here's what people of integrity do. (and I'm not suggesting you aren't such one)

With every problem there is a solution and for every solution there is a problem. You don't stop bringing about a right solution if it's right and just there should be one. I would suggest we stop being civilized if we're afraid of the next problem. You do what's right for it is just that....RIGHT.
 
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This makes excuses for something to be allowed to continue that is wrong.
Are you saying that counting all legal ballots is wrong and that democracy is wrong and should not be allowed to continue?
 
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