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Why is satan the bad guy?

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After reading the bible I still can't quite understand why satan is the bad guy? Compare his actions to what God did and he seems quite docile.

There are plenty of accounts of god killing people, sending people to kill others and their children, wiping out the entire planet in the flood etc.

Everyone says satan is the bad guy but what did he actually do? And at what point does he ever do anything against anyone else on the sheer scale that God did?

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After reading the bible I still can't quite understand why satan is the bad guy? Compare his actions to what God did and he seems quite docile.

There are plenty of accounts of god killing people, sending people to kill others and their children, wiping out the entire planet in the flood etc.

Everyone says satan is the bad guy but what did he actually do? And at what point does he ever do anything against anyone else on the sheer scale that God did?

I look forward to your responses

Why do think God does not have the authority to take life as he sees fit?

Why is it when a guy shoots up a bunch of kindergartners, we scream, "how dare God not stop him!," yet when God actually does stop people, we scream "how dare God kill him!"

just my deux euro cents.
 
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Why do think God does not have the authority to take life as he sees fit?

Why is it when a guy shoots up a bunch of kindergartners, we scream, "how dare God not stop him!," yet when God actually does stop people, we scream "how dare God kill him!"

just my deux euro cents.

I didn't say he didn't have the right. Its not about rights. I'm merely asking from a biblical standpoint, what did Satan do that is so horrible? Especially when compared to God's actions.
 
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After reading the bible I still can't quite understand why satan is the bad guy? Compare his actions to what God did and he seems quite docile.

There are plenty of accounts of god killing people, sending people to kill others and their children, wiping out the entire planet in the flood etc.

Everyone says satan is the bad guy but what did he actually do? And at what point does he ever do anything against anyone else on the sheer scale that God did?

I look forward to your responses

In every story, you need a "good guy" and a "bad guy" to make things more interesting.
 
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After reading the bible I still can't quite understand why satan is the bad guy? Compare his actions to what God did and he seems quite docile.

There are plenty of accounts of god killing people, sending people to kill others and their children, wiping out the entire planet in the flood etc.

Everyone says satan is the bad guy but what did he actually do? And at what point does he ever do anything against anyone else on the sheer scale that God did?

I look forward to your responses
You would have a point, but satan was never actually intended to be taken as a real being. Satan was meant to represent evil in general. It was in later years that people started believing that satan was a real creature like god.
 
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After reading the bible I still can't quite understand why satan is the bad guy? Compare his actions to what God did and he seems quite docile.

There are plenty of accounts of god killing people, sending people to kill others and their children, wiping out the entire planet in the flood etc.

Everyone says satan is the bad guy but what did he actually do? And at what point does he ever do anything against anyone else on the sheer scale that God did?

I look forward to your responses

There is a difference between someone taking a knife and cut a healthly person's chest wide open and doctor doing the exact same thing to someone with a heart condition. One act is good and the other evil. Can you figure out which one is evil?
 
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Hey straightener!

The actual act that caused Satan's fall (and why he's considered a BAD GUY) was his declaration, in which he declared that he would overthrow God 5 times in 5 different places. It was his declaration to be disobedient to God. That's what he did (I think that's the answer you're looking for)! The reasons behind the things that God does is to correct or to put His plan back on course, where Satan works to knock God's plans off course and throw mankind into confusion.

Where you see these massive attacks from Israelites who were sent by God, were the results (historical evidence corroborated the biblical accounts) that these civilizations were so badly corrupted, unreasonable, and unreachable threw negotiated peace, not to mention they were killing surrounding civilizations, Israel believing they had God's authority met them in battle or invaded them, in an effort to stamp out the ideas of evil that they (these corrupted civilizations) worshiped. It's still goes on today.

I believe today's Muslim is further evidence of this tremendous evil. They have proven their unreasonableness, the question is will God step in, and He usually does by way of His Spirit, meaning some Godly resistance group like the Israelites, or in the recent past the Allied Forces, who marched in the name of God (Again documented History) against Hitler, -OR- will God step out! meaning: are we entering the new era that Christ mentioned in the Gospels, Where He evacuates the church and and leaves the world to its own devices.
 
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He started a rebellion against God.
That still doesn't answer the question as to why he's labeled bad. You've only assumed God is the good one and therefore any rebellion against him is bad. That's presumptuous. It's a begging the question fallacy, really.
 
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But as God is all knowing and all powerful... Then he would have known this would happen before he created Satan.. and therefore made him the way he was and knowing full well what he would do?

That God knew what would happen is true, that He made Satan the way he is now is not. Satan chose to rebel against God.
 
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But as God is all knowing and all powerful... Then he would have known this would happen before he created Satan.. and therefore made him the way he was and knowing full well what he would do?

According to the scripture God didn't make him like that. He made him one of the archangels.
 
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After reading the bible I still can't quite understand why satan is the bad guy? Compare his actions to what God did and he seems quite docile.

There are plenty of accounts of god killing people, sending people to kill others and their children, wiping out the entire planet in the flood etc.

Everyone says satan is the bad guy but what did he actually do? And at what point does he ever do anything against anyone else on the sheer scale that God did?

I look forward to your responses

If someone came and whizzed on your carpet and then proceeded to make a dump right there in front of everybody I bet you would get angry real quick.

The reason why is because it is your home and your carpet. You have rules to go by. That is the same with God. He has rules set for this his planet and is angry when those rules are not followed. If mankind would follow the rules of the bible it would be a better world.

Even in the old testament God had rules like for the people to avoid eating pork. If you ever fried up bacon you will see it is loaded with artery clogging grease. It would do well to stay away from those foods.

As far as satan.... He sought to exalt himself above God the Father himself and was cast down...

As three is the number of perfect harmony we have three groups of Angels...

1. Michael - Strong Angels
2. Gabriel - Wise Angels
3. Lucifer - Worshiping Angels

This continued through the eternities until Lucifer's heart began to wax cold with pride...

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nation!For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." - Isaiah 14:12

"And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born." - Rev 12:3-5
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It is my reckonings that Satan was cast out into the void of space...

If… E=mc2 then we can divide and conclude that

Matter (m) = E (energy) / c2 (light)

And there are three varieties…

Mass – Is basically stored energy and light.
Mentality – Our thinking can produce an energy and a light!
Spiritually – E (energy, motivation, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

If E = mc2 we can assume the inverse, and conclude….

n (nothing) = z (absolute zero) / d (darkness)

And to measure the effects on the spiritual level…

n (nothing) – emptyness with no motivation
z (absolute zero) – cold (don’t be a brother polar bear!)
d (darkness) – the opposite of faith, hope, charity, and joy would be… fear, depression, hate, and sorrow!

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. - 2 Cor 11:14

It is in my imagination, as satan fell, that he was stripped of the true light and energies. As he was an angel of light he attempts to bring light unto planet earth... But because he is not of the true E/c2... There is no warmth about him.

The demonic spirits dwelt in this darkness perhaps millions of years, until the Lord God uttered these words...

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. - Genesis 1:3

This was the big boom.... With God's light and energy the universe was created and the universe has been expanding out ever since. It is my estimation that 15 billions years expired before the utterance of these words...

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis 1:5

So... In my estimation Satan has been kicked out of heaven for the period of between 14-16 billion years. It has been so long since he has experienced the true light and energies that he despises it.

Mankind has been created to fill the void left in satans wake. As Lucifer the old dragon does not want us up there playing with his old toys he wars with us over the heavenly stake.

There is a path to Chrisma, or the heavenly anointing. Lucifer had this until ego entered his heart. And... Mankind needs to know this, ego is not anointing of the Spirit but is denomic in its origins.
 
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That still doesn't answer the question as to why he's labeled bad. You've only assumed God is the good one and therefore any rebellion against him is bad. That's presumptuous. It's a begging the question fallacy, really.

Are you suggesting Satan might be the good one? Do have any evidence that this is the case? If not, then it appears that the original assertion that Satan is the evil one stands on its own.
 
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