Why is nobody speaking of open acts of espionage?

[hislegacy]

Espionage (colloquially, spying) is the obtaining of information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information.Espionage can be committed by an individual or a spy ring (a cooperating group of spies), in the service of a government or a company, or operating independently. The practice is inherently clandestine, as it is by definition unwelcome and in many cases illegal and punishable by law. Espionage is a subset of "intelligence" gathering, which includes espionage as well as information gathering from public sources
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Phone conversations between heads of State are protected communication executed over encrypted lines. This is the highest level of privileged communication, Anyone who has access to this communique is fully vetted and holds clearances for the position.

It is an act of espionage to listen to a telephone conversation, transcribe that conversation and give it to the press, or anyone outside the chain of command.

Trump tells Duterte of two U.S. nuclear subs in Korean waters: NYT

Quote: Trump told Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte Washington had "a lot of firepower over there", according to the New York Times, which quoted a transcript of an April 29 call between the two.

Quote: According to the Times, a senior Trump administration official in Washington, who was not authorized to publicly discuss the call and insisted on anonymity, confirmed the transcript was an accurate representation of the call between the two leaders.


That is espionage, who did this, who knew they were and why isn't anyone talking about it?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

That is espionage, who did this, who knew they were and why isn't anyone talking about it?

Maybe the Russians did it.

 

[Redac]

A lot of these people don't actually care about the security of the state or its secrets, they just want a reason to go after Trump.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

When a news source gives such a vague reference, good chance such a person is only trying to muddy up the waters...

This really is a country controlled by the media...

 

[Nithavela]

And once again, Trump supporters scramble to try and change the discussion from the president's indiscretions to the indiscretion of those reporting on those indiscretions.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

And once again, Trump supporters scramble to try and change the discussion from the president's indiscretions to the indiscretion of those reporting on those indiscretions.

If you are referring to me you are incorrect. I support no politician of any office. This way it is easier to pray for them as all Christians should do for those in office.

 

[Nithavela]

If you are referring to me you are incorrect. I support no politician of any office. This way it is easier to pray for them as all Christians should do for those in office.

If you don't feel addressed, you don't have to act as if you were.

 

[Arcangl86]

Espionage (colloquially, spying) is the obtaining of information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information.Espionage can be committed by an individual or a spy ring (a cooperating group of spies), in the service of a government or a company, or operating independently. The practice is inherently clandestine, as it is by definition unwelcome and in many cases illegal and punishable by law. Espionage is a subset of "intelligence" gathering, which includes espionage as well as information gathering from public sources
​

Phone conversations between heads of State are protected communication executed over encrypted lines. This is the highest level of privileged communication, Anyone who has access to this communique is fully vetted and holds clearances for the position.

It is an act of espionage to listen to a telephone conversation, transcribe that conversation and give it to the press, or anyone outside the chain of command.

Trump tells Duterte of two U.S. nuclear subs in Korean waters: NYT

Quote: Trump told Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte Washington had "a lot of firepower over there", according to the New York Times, which quoted a transcript of an April 29 call between the two.

Quote: According to the Times, a senior Trump administration official in Washington, who was not authorized to publicly discuss the call and insisted on anonymity, confirmed the transcript was an accurate representation of the call between the two leaders.


That is espionage, who did this, who knew they were and why isn't anyone talking about it?

What statute or executive order are you relying on to support your conclusion that telephone statements between heads of states are classified?

 

[LivingWordUnity]

When a news source gives such a vague reference, good chance such a person is only trying to muddy up the waters...

This really is a country controlled by the media...

The media is mad because they didn't get to be the ones to choose who would be in the White House. Their plan to build up Trump during the primaries and then take him down during the debates with the Access Hollywood tape so that their candidate, Hillary Clinton would win, failed and backfired on them.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Espionage (colloquially, spying) is the obtaining of information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information.Espionage can be committed by an individual or a spy ring (a cooperating group of spies), in the service of a government or a company, or operating independently. The practice is inherently clandestine, as it is by definition unwelcome and in many cases illegal and punishable by law. Espionage is a subset of "intelligence" gathering, which includes espionage as well as information gathering from public sources
​

Phone conversations between heads of State are protected communication executed over encrypted lines. This is the highest level of privileged communication, Anyone who has access to this communique is fully vetted and holds clearances for the position.

It is an act of espionage to listen to a telephone conversation, transcribe that conversation and give it to the press, or anyone outside the chain of command.

Trump tells Duterte of two U.S. nuclear subs in Korean waters: NYT

Quote: Trump told Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte Washington had "a lot of firepower over there", according to the New York Times, which quoted a transcript of an April 29 call between the two.

Quote: According to the Times, a senior Trump administration official in Washington, who was not authorized to publicly discuss the call and insisted on anonymity, confirmed the transcript was an accurate representation of the call between the two leaders.


That is espionage, who did this, who knew they were and why isn't anyone talking about it?

The media here got the information from Duterte's transcript that he provided.

Trump Duterte Transcript

 

[FreeinChrist]

see Philippines Gov. Leaks Trump-Duterte Transcript To The Media

 

[DaisyDay]

Anyone else think it's cool how Donald congratulates Rodrigo on how well he controls his country's drug problem? Since Donald's proposed budget is cutting out help for opioid addiction, maybe he'll take up his buddy's solution.

 

[rambot]

Yeah. This was dealt with in another thread.
I don't expect the jets to cool, but I still say...

 

[cow451]

A lot of these people don't actually care about the security of the state or its secrets, they just want a reason to go after Trump.

The leaks are from the very people Trump chose in many cases.

 

[KCfromNC]

And once again, Trump supporters scramble to try and change the discussion from the president's indiscretions to the indiscretion of those reporting on those indiscretions.

I robbed a bank ... who was the bad guy who called the police?

 

[LivingWordUnity]

The leaks are from the very people Trump chose in many cases.

Can you prove that claim?

 

[LoAmmi]

And once again, Trump supporters scramble to try and change the discussion from the president's indiscretions to the indiscretion of those reporting on those indiscretions.

I seem to remember these same people telling me that it was fantastic we were learning about Hillary and DNC problems due to Wikileaks. I maintain that I don't like any leaking of this kind, but then again I like to be that thing call consistent and not the thing that rhymes with hippo-grits.

 

[cow451]

Can you prove that claim?

Who else is in on private meetings? BTW, how does one expect corruption to be exposed without inside information getting leaked?

 

[hislegacy]

I'm failing to understand why the source of the espionage makes a difference.

The active still the same whether it's from our own people or a foreign source it's still illegal.

 

[LoAmmi]

I'm failing to understand why the source of the espionage makes a difference.

The active still the same whether it's from our own people or a foreign source it's still illegal.

Well, if the transcript was given out from one of the countries involved, I'm not sure it qualifies as espionage.