Why is Islam Silent?

[Armoured]

You sort of seem like a muslim from your replies,

like what, specifically?

either that or someone who can't or won't see the dangers that are in front of them. I understand.. sometimes it's difficult to face the truth of a situation.

well, I'm not the one ignoring links.

 

[SolomonVII]

sorry if I misunderstood your first post. Anyway - it seems that there is someone here, who claims to be a non-moslem, who thinks that appeasement is a good thing so the post has a few links that won't hurt.

It is a very common assertion by many Christians nowadays, to emphasis that Islam and Christianity share Jesus in common.

The Bible, and specifically Paul, makes it very clear that to preach another Jesus is to be lead astray by Satan himself. FiG's article drives home that point. The term "super apostle" from the Catholic on-line Bible describes quite well the idea that Catholics ought not even agree with the super apostle of the papacy itself if it leads one to believe in a different Jesus.
Isa is a different Jesus.

That is indisputable.

 

[Armoured]

It is a very common assertion by many Christians nowadays, to emphasis that Islam and Christianity share Jesus in common.

The Bible, and specifically Paul, makes it very clear that to preach another Jesus is to be lead astray by Satan himself. FiG's article drives home that point. The term "super apostle" from the Catholic on-line Bible describes quite well the idea that Catholics ought not even agree with the super apostle of the papacy itself if it leads one to believe in a different Jesus.
Isa is a different Jesus.

That is indisputable.

Despite all the people who dispute it.

 

[FoundInGrace]

like what, specifically?
well, I'm not the one ignoring links.

Hehe, it won't open on my ph dude..and you ignored my link as well I like you you're feisty

Like what specifically you ask .... well like I notice you're not denying being muslim.

 

[Widlast]

Looks like a personal insult...despite all the millions of members of that religion who say otherwise...

Is it that you are not paying attention to what is happening in the world or that you just want to be contrary?

 

[SolomonVII]

Despite all the people who dispute it.

Satan is a liar .
So are his spawn.
Like father like son.

 

[Armoured]

Is it that you are not paying attention to what is happening in the world or that you just want to be contrary?

By all means, lets look at what's happening in the world. Including the vast majority of Muslims who are moderate and condemn violent extremism.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Satan is a liar .
So are his spawn.
Like father like son.

This is it. This is what it has always been. Lies vs truth. Christ is truth, and His followers are like Him in that regard. On the other hand, and as you say, Satan is a liar, and his children are liars as well.

Spot the lies and spot the enemy of Christ, Church, and Christian. As we've been warned, they are among us. They sit in pews every Sunday; their goal is our destruction.

It's not the atheists I fear. It's those who hide their true identity through deception, wearing a cross around their neck.

 

[Armoured]

This is it. This is what it has always been. Lies vs truth. Christ is truth, and His followers are like Him in that regard. On the other hand, and as you say, Satan is a liar, and his children are liars as well.

Spot the lies and spot the enemy of Christ, Church, and Christian. As we've been warned, they are among us. They fill pews every Sunday; their goal is our destruction.

Any specifics you'd like to discuss, or are we just sort of generically freewheeling at this point, since the OP claim was shown demonstrably incorrect?

 

[jimmyjimmy]

 

[jimmyjimmy]

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[FoundInGrace]

I think mostly it is fear that keeps the leaders from saying terrorism is wrong. Fear of being killed, even in Australia a muslim leader came out and said 'halal' Easter eggs are an insult and unnecessary and essentially said that Muslims who move to Australia should adapt to Australian culture not Australian culture have to adapt to suit immigrants. Now he is under protection because he fears for his life from his own religion. If that is the response from his own religion to a simple comment on 'halal' Easter eggs then imagine if he had said killings of non Muslims is wrong!

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I think mostly it is fear that keeps the leaders from saying terrorism is wrong. Fear of being killed, even in Australia a muslim leader came out and said 'halal' Easter eggs are an insult and unnecessary and essentially said that Muslims who move to Australia should adapt to Australian culture not Australian culture have to adapt to suit immigrants. Now he is under protection because he fears for his life from his own religion. If that is the response from his own religion to a simple comment on 'halal' Easter eggs then imagine if he had said killings of non Muslims is wrong!

If the silence is motivated by their fear or their condoning terrorism, it condemns them either way.

 

[SolomonVII]

This is it. This is what it has always been. Lies vs truth. Christ is truth, and His followers are like Him in that regard. On the other hand, and as you say, Satan is a liar, and his children are liars as well.

Spot the lies and spot the enemy of Christ, Church, and Christian. As we've been warned, they are among us. They sit in pews every Sunday; their goal is our destruction.

It's not the atheists I fear. It's those who hide their true identity through deception, wearing a cross around their neck.

There often exists an honesty in atheists that will never be found in fifth column Christians.

 

[SolomonVII]

It is an assault on liberty, as understood in the American context, to ban either the confederate flag, or the jijab, or even the burning of the American flag.

It is an insult on intellligence to not note the misogyny that the hijab can represent, or the racism that is just has been just as strongly associated with the Confederate flag.

The meanings of symbols can be changed over time. This much is true. However, the meaning of a symbol will never be changed by people ignoring what practices of FGM have represented over the years, and giving a free pass to the nonsense that really, it has all been about freeing up a woman's sexuality by exposing her sensitive parts to more pleasure.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

fifth column Christians

I'm not familiar with that term.

 

[FoundInGrace]

Jesus is Risen

 

[SolomonVII]

I'm not familiar with that term.

A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation. The activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine. Forces gathered in secret can mobilize openly to assist an external attack. This term is also extended to organized actions by military personnel. Clandestine fifth column activities can involve acts of sabotage, disinformation, or espionage executed within defense lines by secret sympathizers with an external force.
Fifth column - Wikipedia

 

[staffsgt7]

You sort of seem like a muslim from your replies, either that or someone who can't or won't see the dangers that are in front of them. I understand.. sometimes it's difficult to face the truth of a situation.

when one sounds like one...!!

 

[staffsgt7]

Satan is a liar .
So are his spawn.
Like father like son.

allah is claims to be a liar - in its own koran!

Satan is described as the deceiver in the Bible (Rev 12:9); Allah is described as the greatest deceiver in the Koran (Surah 3:54); by the transitive property of equality, what do we have?

“And they (the Jews) planned and Allah (also) planned, and Allah is the best of planners.” surah 3:54

The word translated “plan” by most English translations of the Koran is actually the Arabic word “makr” meaning “To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to exercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice stratagem.”

Surah 8:30 offers reinforcement to the notion that Allah deceives:

“And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners (‘makr’, deceivers).“

The Koran unashamedly calls Muhammad’s god the best liar and deceiver of them all! It even dares to say that ALL deception belongs completely to Allah:

“And verily, those before them did deceive/scheme (makara), but all deception/scheming is Allah’s (falillahi al-makru). He knows what every person earns, and the disbelievers will know who gets the good end.” S. 13:42

In fact, the Koran states that Allah actually raises wicked individuals to deceive and scheme:

“Even so have we placed in every city, ringleaders of its wicked ones, to scheme therein (liyamkuroo): but only against themselves shall they scheme (yamkuroona)! and they know it not.” S. 6:123

Moreover, the Qur’an calls Allah a liar, because he has no problem using guile, “kayd“, in Surahs 7:182-183 and 68:45. For back-up on the claim that the Koran describes a deceptive and lying god Allah, where much of the above information was found.

The Bible calls Satan the deceiver:

“And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.” Rev 12:9

It also calls Satan a liar:

“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” John 8:44

By the Transitive Property of Equality, i.e., A=B, B=C, therefore A=C, we can know that Allah is actually Satan in disguise, whom the Bible calls an “angel of light” (2 Cor 11:14).