Why is Islam Silent?

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Where are the majority of peace-loving Muslims when the globe is being terrorized by a so called extremist minority? If the vast majority opposes such violence, why have they not come out in large numbers condemning Islamic terrorism? There have been countless chances for them to do so.

As a Christian, I know that 95% of Christians would vocally come out and condemn the same acts if they were done by people calling themselves Christians. If men were bombing and killing children in the name of Christ, they would be excommunicate and we would help catch and prosecute them.

Why has Islam done nothing, if it is in fact a "religion of peace"?

Here's a short list I found on Twitter. Its doesn't even include Paris and Sweden:

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim.
The Orlando Shooter was Muslim.
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims.
The Fort Hood shooter was a Muslim.
The USS Cole bombers were Muslims.
The "Underwear Bomber" was a Muslim.
The Madrid train bombers were Muslims.
The Times Square bomber was a Muslim.
The Bali nightclub bombers were Muslims.
The London subway bombers were Muslims...
The Moscow theater attackers were Muslims.
The Boston Marathon bombers were Muslims.
The Iranian Embassy takeover was by Muslims.
The Pan-Am Flight#103 bombers were Muslims.
The Air France Entebbe hijackers were Muslims.
The Beirut US Embassy bombers were Muslims.
The Libyan US Embassy attack was by a Muslim.
The Buenos Aires suicide bombers were Muslims.
The Kenyan US Embassy bombers were Muslims.
The Israeli Olympic Team attackers were Muslims.
The Saudi Khobar Towers bombers were Muslims.
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims.
The Beslan Russian school attackers were Muslims.
The Achille Lauro cruise ship attackers were Muslims.
The 1993 World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims.
The Bombay and Mumbai India attackers were Muslims.
The September 11th, 2001, airplane hijackers were Muslims.
Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth
 
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If the vast majority opposes such violence, why have they not come out in large numbers condemning Islamic terrorism? There have been countless chances for them to do so.
As a Christian, I know that 95% of Christians would vocally come out and condemn the same acts if they were done by people calling themselves Christians.
I was wondering the same thing but . ....
It takes huge guts. And might lead to ostracism I imagine. The best way to survive is not stand out in the crowd. You might endanger not only yourself, but your family and friends. That why I admire that woman on the video you provided earlier today.
 
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Where are the majority of peace-loving Muslims when the globe is being terrorized by a so called extremist minority? If the vast majority opposes such violence, why have they not come out in large numbers condemning Islamic terrorism? There have been countless chances for them to do so.

As a Christian, I know that 95% of Christians would vocally come out and condemn the same acts if they were done by people calling themselves Christians. If men were bombing and killing children in the name of Christ, they would be excommunicate and we would help catch and prosecute them.

Why has Islam done nothing, if it is in fact a "religion of peace"?

Here's a short list I found on Twitter. Its doesn't even include Paris and Sweden:

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim.
The Orlando Shooter was Muslim.
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims.
The Fort Hood shooter was a Muslim.
The USS Cole bombers were Muslims.
The "Underwear Bomber" was a Muslim.
The Madrid train bombers were Muslims.
The Times Square bomber was a Muslim.
The Bali nightclub bombers were Muslims.
The London subway bombers were Muslims...
The Moscow theater attackers were Muslims.
The Boston Marathon bombers were Muslims.
The Iranian Embassy takeover was by Muslims.
The Pan-Am Flight#103 bombers were Muslims.
The Air France Entebbe hijackers were Muslims.
The Beirut US Embassy bombers were Muslims.
The Libyan US Embassy attack was by a Muslim.
The Buenos Aires suicide bombers were Muslims.
The Kenyan US Embassy bombers were Muslims.
The Israeli Olympic Team attackers were Muslims.
The Saudi Khobar Towers bombers were Muslims.
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims.
The Beslan Russian school attackers were Muslims.
The Achille Lauro cruise ship attackers were Muslims.
The 1993 World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims.
The Bombay and Mumbai India attackers were Muslims.
The September 11th, 2001, airplane hijackers were Muslims.
Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth
B ... b ... but Islam is a religion of peace. All peace loving Muslims know that. So there is no need to condemn violence done by Muslims because Muslims are peaceful.

Actually, and more seriously this time, it's easy for some Christians to ignore a bad patch of Christian history by saying "that wasn't my denomination".
 
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Why don't ex scientology members come out and lambast that cult of all cults?
Oh Cirius dude (oh I like that),
Might be because Scientology might come back and hurt you? Scientology really doesn't like traitors. But then neither does Islam. Hmmm.
 
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I believe much of the major media outlets have adopted a similar nanny state type of solution that numerous politicians have. They focus on promoting Islamophobia by their thinking to prevent an intolerant society against religion in general.

So now not only would Muslims face criticism voicing protests against their own community by fellow Muslims, they also face it from non muslims. But there are some ex-Muslims and a few Muslims that are courageous enough to speak out. Their views however are not what numerous politicians and press outlets believe to be the correct ones.
 
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How many times can someone condemn it?

It's like when anything bad happens, world leaders flock to condemn it and it's like "well duh".

The Muslims I know all condemn it so there's nothing more to be said. Most of them are just ashamed that people drag their religion through the dirt.

Some of the Muslims I work with struggle to even look people in the eye in the days following those sort of thing because they're that ashamed.

If we all took the time to condemn everything anyone associated with us did wrong, we'd never get anything else done.
 
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How many times can someone condemn it?

It's like when anything bad happens, world leaders flock to condemn it and it's like "well duh".

The Muslims I know all condemn it so there's nothing more to be said. Most of them are just ashamed that people drag their religion through the dirt.

Some of the Muslims I work with struggle to even look people in the eye in the days following those sort of thing because they're that ashamed.

If we all took the time to condemn everything anyone associated with us did wrong, we'd never get anything else done.

Christian leaders would be on CNN non-stop. I've not seen ONE prominent Muslim leader clearly, strongly and consistency condemn any of these acts.

Has Twitter been on fire with tweeting Muslims after any of these attacks? How about Facebook? CNN? NBC? BBC?

Almost nothing in way of public condemnation.
 
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Christian leaders would be on CNN non-stop. I've not seen ONE prominent Muslim leader clearly, strongly and consistency condemn any of these acts.

Has Twitter been on fire with tweeting Muslims after any of these attacks? How about Facebook? CNN? NBC? BBC?

Almost nothing in way of public condemnation.

I'm on my phone so I can't be bothered digging up countless examples, but they're out there.

I can't speak for other networks but the BBC is not really somewhere that would happen anyway. They aren't really big on asking people on for their opinion on matters like that like a lot of the American broadcasters.

There does reach a point though where one has to wonder what good it will do. People doing bad things will continue to do bad things.

Look at the Catholic terrorists back over the past few decades in Ireland and that conflict. Some "Christians" still defend them to this day. I just think a lot of things go without saying and I don't really feel I need to hear people reiterate the same point the overwhelming majority of Muslims believe. It doesn't change anything.
 
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I'm on my phone so I can't be bothered digging up countless examples, but they're out there.

It shouldn't take any digging to find them. They should be so vocal and prominent that I can't avoid seeing, rather than having to use Google to find a few examples. That's my point.
 
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It shouldn't take any digging to find them. They should be so vocal and prominent that I can't avoid seeing, rather than having to use Google to find a few examples. That's my point.

To what end, though?

To tell us what we already know?

Do we need scientists on the news every day to indeed confirm the sky is blue?
 
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To what end, though?

To tell us what we already know?

Do we need scientists on the news every day to indeed confirm the sky is blue?

a) to stop it

b) to demonstrate that Muslims are actually against terrorism (if in fact they are)

c) We don't all know it. Countless people keep telling us that Islam is a peaceful religion, but two things fly in the face of that. First, we have terrorists, and second, we don't have a HUGE backlash of Muslims fighting against it.
 
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I watch and listen to a lot of news.

Zuhdi Jasser of American Islamic Forum for Democracy is the only one I have observed. And that's been just about exclusively on Fox News.

There are a few, but far, far too few.
 
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While significant numbers of Muslims may not agree with the methods of violent extremists, significant numbers of Muslims do agree with what those extremists are fighting for.

Significant numbers of Muslims do agree that those who blaspheme the Prophet ought to die.
Significant numbers of Muslims do believe in sharia law, including sharia methods of justice and punishment (ie amputations, death for adultresses).
Significant number of Muslims do agree in Islamic supremacism, and the goodness of the idea that one day the whole world will be under Islamic rule.

Just as an analogy, many people have noted the difference in attitudes of leftist towards Nazis and communists. In terms of method, both systems have been brutal and genocidal in the numbers of people left dead. But as hard as leftist have been in portraying Hitler as Satan, the greater killers of the twentieth century such as Mao and Stalin are not opposed in the same way. There was even an ornament of Mao on Obama's Christmas tree. It is not that leftists are any less horrified by the Holdomor or the brutality of these communist regimes. They are not soft on the methods of the communists.
But they are soft on the message of socialism, which they agree with.
 
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While significant numbers of Muslims may not agree with the methods of violent extremists, significant numbers of Muslims do agree with what those extremists are fighting for.

Significant numbers of Muslims do agree that those who blaspheme the Prophet ought to die.
Significant numbers of Muslims do believe in sharia law, including sharia methods of justice and punishment (ie amputations, death for adultresses).
Significant number of Muslims do agree in Islamic supremacism, and the goodness of the idea that one day the whole world will be under Islamic rule.

Yes. I've seen the statistics from surveys. A few Muslims actually kill people, but it seems, accord to their own testimony, that many Muslims agree that killing is good/valid.

There was a meme I saw awhile back that said, "Radical Muslims want to kill you; moderate muslims want radical Muslims to kill you." Based on the surveys of Muslims in several different countries, I have to wonder if there isn't some truth to that meme.
 
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