why have Neo Nazis become totally obsessed with killing all the Jews in the world now? because

[grasping the after wind]

As the late Richard Rorty pointed out, a just society doesn't have to tolerate the intolerant. People that believe in a world free of Jews, gays, or blacks are not people whose views must be tolerated unchallenged.

So people that believe in a world free from conservatives ought not be tolerated then? Correct?

 

[FireDragon76]

So people that believe in a world free from conservatives ought not be tolerated then? Correct?

It depends on how they believe in achieving a world "free from conservatives".

 

[jayem]

All racial, religious, and ethnic prejudice is knuckleheaded. Anti-Semitism may be the stupidest and most contemptible of whole sorry lot. Many anti-Semites, I believe, are mentally deranged. For others, their bigotry is grounded in envy. Jews are often very successful and productive people. While the Neo-Nazi types who hate them are often hapless losers and misfits. I think they're more vocal and noticeable now because we are living in a time of intense political divisiveness (the blame for which can be shared by both sides.) Stressful and uncertain times always bring out crackpots.

 

[FireDragon76]

All racial, religious, and ethnic prejudice is knuckleheaded. Anti-Semitism may be the stupidest and most contemptible of whole sorry lot. Many anti-Semites, I believe, are mentally deranged. For others, their bigotry is grounded in envy. Jews are often very successful and productive people. While the Neo-Nazi types who hate them are often hapless losers and misfits.

I don't think that's quite the right way to frame the issue. Neo-Nazis's aren't confined just to the backwoods misfits, and Jews being perceived as "successful" is more an artifact of our culture than an absolute reality.

Bigotry like that is not grounded in envy so much as fear of religious and cultural others. That's why Trump validating people angry at undocumented immigrants can spill over into fuelling anti-semitism. It's not surprising that xenophobia and anti-semitism would tend to be associated with each other. Jews historically have been victims of xenophobia.

 

[grasping the after wind]

It depends on how they believe in achieving a world "free from conservatives".

Does the same criterion apply for those that would believe in achieving a world free from Jews, or blacks or homosexuals? Could desiring any of those ends be okay depending upon how one believed in achieving it?

 

[FireDragon76]

Does the same criterion apply for those that would believe in achieving a world free from Jews, or blacks or homosexuals? Could desiring any of those ends be okay depending upon how one believed in achieving it?

Political affiliations are not intrinsic to the human person in the way that religion, race, or sexual orientation are.

 

[prosperity4all]

why have Neo Nazis become totally obsessed with killing all the Jewish people in the world now? because

Neo-Nazi plan to throw petrol bombs at synagogues full of jewish people.



Neo-Nazi who spoke of "exterminating all Jews now" jailed for life over murder plot

German prosecutors charge neo-Nazi with murder of politician

German prosecutors charge neo-Nazi with murder of politician

 

[prosperity4all]

why have Neo Nazis become totally obsessed with killing all the Jewish people in the world now? because

Neo-Nazi plan to throw petrol bombs at synagogues full of jewish people.

Neo-Nazi who spoke of "exterminating all Jews now" jailed for life over murder plot

more and more violent attacks on jewish people now because of Anti-Semitism

 

[Albion]

more and more violent attacks on jewish people now because of Anti-Semitism

The Leftist parties seems to have swung that way in recent years, and not just splinter neo-Nazi groups of whom such a policy might be expected.

Why this is the case may be perplexing, although it may have to do with the fact that the same parties make supporting Islamic minorities in their various countries part of their platform.

 

[MehGuy]

Something I have always wondered. My thoughts are that it's a mix of jealousy and being afraid of change. With an Ashkenazi Jewish IQ averaging around 115 (a standard deviation above average) they cannot help but do well socioeconomically and achieve more disproportionately compared to other groups. I do wonder how certain anti-Semites think a Jew works psychologically. They're humans just like the rest of us, and if a higher proportion of the are gifted intellectually why wouldn't they use their talents?

Really two fold. The higher IQ you have the more likely you are to question tradition and forge new paths and ways of thinking. This scares the more socially conservative types. Some anti-Semites point to Sigmund Freud and his uncomfortable ideas about human nature and claim he's just expressing inner Jewish thought. Whether he is a quack or not, he had some interesting ideas. They don't come from some Jewish mind, but simply from someone who is highly creative and was able to think outside the box. Jews think differently from one another. If some do band together it's simply due to a natural human reaction of being ostracized. Gad Saad who is Jewish said that maybe some Jews stick together and help each other out exclusively, but that's only a response to the anti-Semitism they have experienced in life. If they did not experience that hostility in life they wouldn't feel such a need.

I'm sorry but anti-Semitism is just creepy, and brings out the worst in human nature in my opinion. Those people should step back from crazy conspiracy theories and look at things through a more rational and humane lens.

 

[FireDragon76]

The Leftist parties seems to have swung that way in recent years, and not just splinter neo-Nazi groups of whom such a policy might be expected.

Why this is the case may be perplexing, although it may have to do with the fact that the same parties make supporting Islamic minorities in their various countries part of their platform.

The Left is not inordinately anti-Semitic... how could it be when our suppossed hero, Marx, himself was Jewish?

On the other hand, I know who said the tiki-torch carrying brigades chanting an anti-Jewish screed had some "good people" among them. And it wasn't a leftist.

 

[Albion]

The Left is not inordinately anti-Semitic...

Yes, it has become so of late. However, a big part of that probably comes from sympathy for various Jihadist organizations.

how could it be when our suppossed hero, Marx, himself Jewish?

How could the Soviet Union have been so anti-Semitic, then?

 

[FireDragon76]

Yes, it has become so of late. However, a big part of that probably comes from sympathy for various Jihadist organizations.


How could the Soviet Union have been so anti-Semitic, then?

I am not an expert on Soviet history, but I know in its inception, it wasn't. Lenin himself spoke out against anti-Semitism.

 

[Albion]

So people that believe in a world free from conservatives ought not be tolerated then? Correct?

Frankly, I don't know what you're talking about there, but if it's what you want to believe, I'm probably not going to be able to dissuade you.

 

[FireDragon76]

So people that believe in a world free from conservatives ought not be tolerated then? Correct?

If it involves violent ideology, of course it should not be tolerated. However, I would point out that much of what passes for conservativism in the US is inherently violent.

 

[JackRT]

Yes, it has become so of late. However, a big part of that probably comes from sympathy for various Jihadist organizations.

I have not seen anti-Semitism in the left nor any support for Jihadists. I have noticed the left being highly critical of the State if Israel for its near genocidal treatment of the Palestinian people. This is quite justified and is not anti-Semitic. Note also that the Palestinian people are also Semitic.

 

[Albion]

I have not seen anti-Semitism in the left nor any support for Jihadists.

Amazing. Does the term "the squad" ring any bells with you?

 

[JackRT]

Amazing. Does the term "the squad" ring any bells with you?

No it doesn't other than its military use. I stand to be enlightened.

 

[grasping the after wind]

If it involves violent ideology, of course it should not be tolerated. However, I would point out that much of what passes for conservativism in the US is inherently violent.

You would point out, but then you did not. Source? I am familiar with numerous conservatives none of which have shown the slightest tendency toward violence. On the other hand, I have seen protesters' signs advocating the demise of all conservatives as well as engaging in multiple acts of violence

I am not an expert on Soviet history, but I know in its inception, it wasn't. Lenin himself spoke out against anti-Semitism.

Lenin was a very skilled hypocritical speaker. Much like Hitler, he was able to tell lie after lie with such conviction that people believed him.

 

[FireDragon76]

You would point out, but then you did not. Source? I am familiar with numerous conservatives none of which have shown the slightest tendency toward violence.

"Law and order" political discourse being a prime example of advocating violence to solve perceived social problems. The current president is the perfect example of this. Just because it's the State enacting that violence, doesn't make it any less violent.

And that's not even touching on the inherent violence implied in any kind of white nationalism, which has gained traction on the Right in the past decades.