Why Dont Peole Belive In God?

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God Is Amazing The Does Many Mircles And He Will Come Back Soon So We Better Be Prepared. If You Dont Know God Please Get Down On Your Knees And Ask Him For Forgiveness And Then Go To Church And Get Prayed. Pray That He Forgives You For Your Sins. I Could Even Tell You A Testimony On How God Can Change Your Life Forever.
 

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People don't believe in God because people only come to
God whom he has called. We evangelize in an attempt to find those whom God has called, to connect them with the rest of his believers and to teach them to become a disciple and to learn to teach them at least some basic theology, such as is Jesus God.
 
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Romans 1:18-23 says "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse; for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles."

This passage very clearly states that unbelief is a purposefully rejection of the knowledge of God.
 
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holyrokker said:
Romans 1:18-23 says "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse; for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles."

This passage very clearly states that unbelief is a purposefully rejection of the knowledge of God.
Taken in context you will realize it is talking about religious leaders who distort the truth. For example, the Mormon founder.
 
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Umm... The context of this is the whole of humanity, separated from Christ. Paul is beginning his case here in the 1st chapter of Romans as to the depths of sin and depravity, and how mankind arrived there.
He goes on to show that all have sinned.
 
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ryanpw said:
People don't believe in God because people only come to
God whom he has called. We evangelize in an attempt to find those whom God has called, to connect them with the rest of his believers and to teach them to become a disciple and to learn to teach them at least some basic theology, such as is Jesus God.

Oh dear!

Salvation is for all, not just for a select clique that God has chosen. What an awful God to choose favourites!

I cannot believe in a God who picks some and throws others away. That is NOT love. That is a very evil pupper master.

Your teaching is one of the reasons people don't in fact believe in God
 
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craig_on_fire said:
Oh dear!

Salvation is for all, not just for a select clique that God has chosen. What an awful God to choose favourites!

I cannot believe in a God who picks some and throws others away. That is NOT love. That is a very evil pupper master.

Your teaching is one of the reasons people don't in fact believe in God

Seconded!
 
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Make that Thirded! If there is such a thing. :)

John 3:16 For god so loved THE WORLD that He gave His only begotten son that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish.

2 Corinthians 5:15 And he died FOR ALL, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.

1 Tim. 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of ALL men, especially of those who believe.

I John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Jesus came for all. He died for all mankind. ALL. Not some.

If your church is telling you that Jesus only died for some, then it is my belief that you should flea from that church a.s.a.p. and get yourself to one that preaches directly from God's word.
 
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When I was a teen, before I attended college, I was an atheist.

The main reason I was one was I was raised in a 'Christian' cult and when I discovered that I was lied to, I became angry with the church and God. I figured that if this is all a lie, then there is no God. If I had to behave in the way which to people I was exposed to acted, I wanted no part with Christianity nor religion nor God.

I saw religious people as naive and not logical. I thought the church people were on some kind of weird ego trip and playing mind games. The cult I was involved with used much emotional manipulation and to this day, over emotionalism in church makes me nervous.

What changed me was attending chemistry and physics classes and seeing a grand design within the formulae and structures of matter and energy. If there is a design, there must be a designer.

The rest is history. :yum:

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When I was a teen, before I attended college, I was an atheist.

The main reason I was one was I was raised in a 'Christian' cult and when I discovered that I was lied to, I became angry with the church and God. I figured that if this is all a lie, then there is no God. If I had to behave in the way which to people I was exposed to acted, I wanted no part with Christianity nor religion nor God.

I saw religious people as naive and not logical. I thought the church people were on some kind of weird ego trip and playing mind games. The cult I was involved with used much emotional manipulation and to this day, over emotionalism in church makes me nervous.

What changed me was attending chemistry and physics classes and seeing a grand design within the formulae and structures of matter and energy. If there is a design, there must be a designer.

The rest is history. :yum:

Peace and Long Life


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If we exist, someone must create us.
But, if God exist, no one creates Him.
Speaking of chemistry and physics, have you heard of the Miller-Urey experiment?
 
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Well, the reason I became a non-believer was because of christians. I found alot of them mean and rude and wanted to condem me without helping me. I even been called awful names by religious people. That is the main reason I turned into a non-believer. Then I met a few relax and nice christians and now I'm sorta of a believer again. Most non-believers I know aren't a believer because of religious people. They don't understand all these stricted beliefs. Plus, some think everything even loving your dog is a sin.
 
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Why Dont Peole Belive In God?

Because they can not see, touch, hear, smell, or taste. People want physical evidence that they can see, and prove before they believe. And sometimes when proven, they still don't believe. "(For we walk by faith, not by sight)" 2 Cor. 5:7
 
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Jesus was called awful names,even denied 3 times by "christians". But to add to the first persons question is basic what people can't see they(some) can't take hold of.I've never let another Christian come between me and my maker.
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Well, the reason I became a non-believer was because of christians. I found alot of them mean and rude and wanted to condem me without helping me. I even been called awful names by religious people. That is the main reason I turned into a non-believer. Then I met a few relax and nice christians and now I'm sorta of a believer again. Most non-believers I know aren't a believer because of religious people. They don't understand all these stricted beliefs. Plus, some think everything even loving your dog is a sin.
 
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One very plain reason why people do not believe in God is rather embarassing to common human judgement. Frankly, most will believe in that which they can see and disbelieve that which they cannot see. Unfortunately for this position, "The kingdom of God does not come with outward observation." It is to our advantage that we cannot see Him, since this privilege would prove fatal, and we must therefore accustom ourselves to believing in Him on the basis of His word and not upon other highly limited evidences.
 
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On occasion a question can be answered with absolute certainty, and this is one such. Y'all are wrong. The reason peole does not believe in God is that there is no peole!

Having settled that argument beyond any reasonable doubt, I am officially "hijacking" this thread (in flagrant disregard of the rules) to a wholly different question: why do some people not believe in God?

Like most questions, it has at least one simple answer and a complicated one.

Simple: because God allows it. The whole "freewill" business, y'know, "if God had wanted to make robots..."

For a primer on the complicated answer, I commend a novel to y'all, the only one C.S. Lewis ever wrote (his many other books are not strictly in that style): "Till We Have Faces". Besides being an entertaining read, it deals with the core problem of unbelief very effectively, by retelling the story of Cupid and Psyche from the vantage of Psyche's sister.

A start on the complicated answer:
1- the "some" in "some people" is quite small. Every society throughout history that has ever been recorded, no matter how remote "in darkest Africa" has a profound belief in God(s). In fact, the more primitive the culture, the more strongly these beliefs dominate every day life, AND the more likely they are to believe in a SINGLE great God (like most native american "indians" belief in the "great Spirit of the Sky"). In fact, the very first "specialist" in the society is always the "shaman", the combination priest/physician. Read carefully the writings of some modern atheists like Sartre, and Asimov and you will find they actually believe in God. Sartre recounts an episode in his early childhood of feeling the presence of God looking at him comitting a sin, and becoming angry that He should be so rude, and never again being so disturbed. Asimov in his famous Foundation trilogy winds up with 3 foundations: the physical, the mental and the group that finally dominates all mankind (for the better), the spiritual (in a pantheistic form). There are indeed very few people who secretly do not believe in God.

2- Nonetheless there are some, for so says Scripture: "The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." This is the only passage I know of that clearly speaks of total atheism (please correct me if I'm wrong). As to how these, I'd write further some other time, maybe, that is, should the Fortunes divine it :)
 
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babochka said:
What changed me was attending chemistry and physics classes and seeing a grand design within the formulae and structures of matter and energy. If there is a design, there must be a designer.


So sorry for all you went through in 'churched' groups. I can attest to the strong conviction science offers in the reality of God. As a nurse, studying human anatomy reinforced my convictions- God IS real and I am accountable to Him.

Blessings in Him,
~H :pink:

 
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