Why doesn't the church practice/order kosher?

[Cis.jd]

Cis.jd. I have to seriously evaluate what I eat now.
The dairy/veal industry is so cruel. Why don't they knock out the animal first before bleeding it. If u think Islam or the Jews are any better watch these videos.
Kosher slaughter and Halal slaughter ain't any better.

Sure. I can imagine that all these places that claim "kosher" are probably lying. But maybe this shows that there are muslims and jews who don't take their religious laws seriously anymore.

But they still have it as a religious rule, and I'm just curious as to why Christians don't have a rule like that especially since God was strict on this.

 

[Kaon]

What i mean by Kosher isn't including specific dietary laws in the OT but the "painless" slaughter of the animal.

As Christians, especially us Catholics who rely on the traditions of the apostles. Since when did they abandon this Judeo-Christian teaching of humane animal slaughter. Since when did Jesus and Paul's allowing of eating any meats included the retirement of Kosher?

Because honestly, the way most christian populated countries (such as the USA) slaughter their livestock is evil. Just watch farm to fridge, and then read Leviticus to the Talmud, how can the same God in Leviticus be ok with that?

I believe the humane treatment to God's creatures is still a commandment from God, and the Church (and christianity in general) should be having this as a tradition.

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I would like to post a video clip of how horrible these slaughterings since it maybe more effective for others to understand... however due to it's graphic nature, I'm not sure if it's allowed.

hmm...

Why indeed?

 

[timothyu]

and I'm just curious as to why Christians don't have a rule like that especially since God was strict on this.

Like when they changed the Sabbath or set the Kingdom aside for world rule?

 

[Cis.jd]

Like when they changed the Sabbath or set the Kingdom aside for world rule?

No, not like that.
Although, i did read your first post which actually does make sense to be a possible reason.

 

[Cis.jd]

I’ll join your fight once Americans stop slaughtering their own children in the womb.

We are just talking about rules in our religion, not the nations political views.

 

[redleghunter]

We are just talking about rules in our religion, not the nations political views.

Really? What Southern Baptists and Catholic priests are slaughtering cattle on a daily bases on church property?

 

[Cis.jd]

Really? What Southern Baptists and Catholic priests are slaughtering cattle on a daily bases on church property?

You think the food they have during lunch came from groceries or restaurants where animals where killed humanely? This question of yours is also out of context.

 

[Cis.jd]

Cis.jd. I have to seriously evaluate what I eat now.
The dairy/veal industry is so cruel. Why don't they knock out the animal first before bleeding it. If u think Islam or the Jews are any better watch these videos.
Kosher slaughter and Halal slaughter ain't any better.

I've watched your videos and this doesn't look like Kosher at all. Where is the shochet (or rabbi) and why is there no Shechitah? The fact that there are butchers in uniform already shows this isn't kosher. It's like Peta went to certain factories, compiled them, and lied about it being "kosher on tape".

Ritual slaughter is known as shechitah- The method of slaughter is a quick, deep stroke across the throat with a perfectly sharp blade with no nicks or unevenness. This method is painless, causes unconsciousness within two seconds....
Judaism 101: Kashrut: Jewish Dietary Laws
What is Kosher Food, Kosher Rules, Products, Definition, What Does Kosher Mean

 

[Cristo Rei]

Im not familiar to the particulars of Kosher or Halal slaughter but I read that it's basically all the same as the Christians do it. The throat slice is meant to cut through the the main artery, the wind pipe and food pipe. The only other specific mention is not to eat meat of strangled animals.

So Im ok with the slaughter as God allows us. It's the mistreatment of the animals that I don't like.
Caged chickens, tiny pig pens, tethered veal, dirty dairy practices, dirty wool practices, brutal castration, etc.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Purchasing directly from the farmer is more economical.

Economical to who? I don't have the time to go out to various farms to find the food I want or need and negotiate prices with individual farmers. And I doubt farmers have the time to set up store fronts or infrastructure needed to negotiate prices to individuals. I'm not sure there's anything easily identifiable as "more economical" by changing the entire production and distribution process.

It's pretty economical when large buyers come and buy in bulk, process and ship food to distribution centers where consumers can come and select what they need.

Price wise, it’s best to pool your resources if possible.

I do and think most people do too. I use a grocery store.

 

[RaymondG]

Here is a clip (mods are free to take it down if it is against the rules)

After reading Leviticus, and also understanding why Jews believe strongly in Kosher as a commandment from God, wouldn't God consider eating meats that have been slaughtered so cruelly to be a sin?

Im curious.....In what manner would you have these pigs slaughtered for you to be ok with eating them? (if you dont eat pork, then substitute pig for an animal you do eat.)

What would a humane killing, look like?

 

[bèlla]

Economical to who? I don't have the time to go out to various farms to find the food I want or need and negotiate prices with individual farmers.

That isn’t necessary. Most farms who offer the service have the information posted on their website. This is an established practice and the method many restaurants use to procure meat. But many farms sell in bulk to consumers.

I am uncertain why you assumed individual negotiations would be necessary. That isn’t practical for a business. Our local farmers market carries meat and most vendors sell in bulk. The method I mentioned is most common for people desiring grass-fed meat.

 

[renniks]

i'm talking about the slaughtering.

What is inhumane about a bolt to the brain? Can't get much quicker than that... Pretty sure in the old days they just slit the throat.

 

[His student]

But sheep are sheep in either category

No - sheep on the farm have wool. Sheep in church have hair (for the most part).

 

[timothyu]

It's pretty economical when large buyers come and buy in bulk, process and ship food to distribution centers where consumers can come and select what they need.

For 60 years at least farmers have gotten 1-2 dollar a pound for beef (usually in the lower range). Lets say $1200 for a complete cow. Butchering and wrapping $1.25 a lb so add say $750. That is $1950 for approx 600 lbs of meat.. ALL cuts. Average of $3 a lb, the usual price of fatty ground beef today. The distribution system is economical? How does that justify $40 for a steak? Past the purchase and cut and wrap stage of $3 can it justify the prices? Surely $37 of that steak doesn't go to wages and transport.

 

[bèlla]

The distribution system is economical? How does that justify $40 for a steak? Past the purchase and cut and wrap stage of $3 can it justify the prices? Surely $37 of that steak doesn't go to wages and transport.

That is why many are buying direct. I found my purveyor through a restaurant’s website while looking at menus. Many mentioned the origin of the meat and I kept encountering their name.

It is well regarded and their willingness to acknowledge its quality was the tipping point. The farmer earns most of his money through commercial clients. His consumer rates are more affordable.

My goal is to procure most goods direct, make them myself, or use specialty retailers. This is the lone body I have. I can’t allow harmful food in my system or products in my home.

The Holy Spirit has directed my efforts and helped me adopt an eco-friendly lifestyle. My home isn’t totally green but its pretty close.

Now I’m working on my wardrobe, ridding myself of synthetic items, and opting for natural fabrics in their place.

 

[Cis.jd]

Im curious.....In what manner would you have these pigs slaughtered for you to be ok with eating them? (if you dont eat pork, then substitute pig for an animal you do eat.)

What would a humane killing, look like?

Kosher.

 

[Cis.jd]

Im not familiar to the particulars of Kosher or Halal slaughter but I read that it's basically all the same as the Christians do it. The throat slice is meant to cut through the the main artery, the wind pipe and food pipe. The only other specific mention is not to eat meat of strangled animals.

So Im ok with the slaughter as God allows us. It's the mistreatment of the animals that I don't like.
Caged chickens, tiny pig pens, tethered veal, dirty dairy practices, dirty wool practices, brutal castration, etc.

There is a lot of good info on Kosher on those links i posted, especially how they are killed and various laws rooted in scripture.

 

[Lost4words]

Surely, a bolt to the head is the most humane? Slitting the throat alone looks VERY inhumane.

Those cows had their throats slit back to the spine and yet they were still very 'active' and aware!

Anyway, i believe kosher was for the Jews.

 

[Jonaitis]

What i mean by Kosher isn't including specific dietary laws in the OT but the "painless" slaughter of the animal.

As Christians, especially us Catholics who rely on the traditions of the apostles. Since when did they abandon this Judeo-Christian teaching of humane animal slaughter. Since when did Jesus and Paul's allowing of eating any meats included the retirement of Kosher?

Just watch farm to fridge, and then read Leviticus to the Talmud, how can the same God in Leviticus be ok with that?

I believe that is an unimportant matter.