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Featured Why doesn't the church practice/order kosher?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Cis.jd, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. Cis.jd

    Cis.jd Well-Known Member

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    Sure. I can imagine that all these places that claim "kosher" are probably lying. But maybe this shows that there are muslims and jews who don't take their religious laws seriously anymore.

    But they still have it as a religious rule, and I'm just curious as to why Christians don't have a rule like that especially since God was strict on this.
     
  2. Kaon

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    hmm...

    Why indeed?
     
  3. timothyu

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    Like when they changed the Sabbath or set the Kingdom aside for world rule?
     
  4. Cis.jd

    Cis.jd Well-Known Member

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    No, not like that.
    Although, i did read your first post which actually does make sense to be a possible reason.
     
  5. Cis.jd

    Cis.jd Well-Known Member

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    We are just talking about rules in our religion, not the nations political views.
     
  6. redleghunter

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    Really? What Southern Baptists and Catholic priests are slaughtering cattle on a daily bases on church property?
     
  7. Cis.jd

    Cis.jd Well-Known Member

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    You think the food they have during lunch came from groceries or restaurants where animals where killed humanely? This question of yours is also out of context.
     
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  8. Cis.jd

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    I've watched your videos and this doesn't look like Kosher at all. Where is the shochet (or rabbi) and why is there no Shechitah? The fact that there are butchers in uniform already shows this isn't kosher. It's like Peta went to certain factories, compiled them, and lied about it being "kosher on tape".

    Ritual slaughter is known as shechitah- The method of slaughter is a quick, deep stroke across the throat with a perfectly sharp blade with no nicks or unevenness. This method is painless, causes unconsciousness within two seconds....

    Judaism 101: Kashrut: Jewish Dietary Laws
    What is Kosher Food, Kosher Rules, Products, Definition, What Does Kosher Mean
     
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  9. Cristo Rei

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    Im not familiar to the particulars of Kosher or Halal slaughter but I read that it's basically all the same as the Christians do it. The throat slice is meant to cut through the the main artery, the wind pipe and food pipe. The only other specific mention is not to eat meat of strangled animals.

    So Im ok with the slaughter as God allows us. It's the mistreatment of the animals that I don't like.
    Caged chickens, tiny pig pens, tethered veal, dirty dairy practices, dirty wool practices, brutal castration, etc.
     
  10. Yekcidmij

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    Economical to who? I don't have the time to go out to various farms to find the food I want or need and negotiate prices with individual farmers. And I doubt farmers have the time to set up store fronts or infrastructure needed to negotiate prices to individuals. I'm not sure there's anything easily identifiable as "more economical" by changing the entire production and distribution process.

    It's pretty economical when large buyers come and buy in bulk, process and ship food to distribution centers where consumers can come and select what they need.

    I do and think most people do too. I use a grocery store.
     
  11. RaymondG

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    Im curious.....In what manner would you have these pigs slaughtered for you to be ok with eating them? (if you dont eat pork, then substitute pig for an animal you do eat.)

    What would a humane killing, look like?
     
  12. LaBèlla

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    That isn’t necessary. Most farms who offer the service have the information posted on their website. This is an established practice and the method many restaurants use to procure meat. But many farms sell in bulk to consumers.

    I am uncertain why you assumed individual negotiations would be necessary. That isn’t practical for a business. Our local farmers market carries meat and most vendors sell in bulk. The method I mentioned is most common for people desiring grass-fed meat.

     
  13. renniks

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    What is inhumane about a bolt to the brain? Can't get much quicker than that... Pretty sure in the old days they just slit the throat.
     
  14. His student

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    No - sheep on the farm have wool. Sheep in church have hair (for the most part).:)
     
  15. timothyu

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    For 60 years at least farmers have gotten 1-2 dollar a pound for beef (usually in the lower range). Lets say $1200 for a complete cow. Butchering and wrapping $1.25 a lb so add say $750. That is $1950 for approx 600 lbs of meat.. ALL cuts. Average of $3 a lb, the usual price of fatty ground beef today. The distribution system is economical? How does that justify $40 for a steak? Past the purchase and cut and wrap stage of $3 can it justify the prices? Surely $37 of that steak doesn't go to wages and transport.
     
  16. LaBèlla

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    That is why many are buying direct. I found my purveyor through a restaurant’s website while looking at menus. Many mentioned the origin of the meat and I kept encountering their name.

    It is well regarded and their willingness to acknowledge its quality was the tipping point. The farmer earns most of his money through commercial clients. His consumer rates are more affordable.

    My goal is to procure most goods direct, make them myself, or use specialty retailers. This is the lone body I have. I can’t allow harmful food in my system or products in my home.

    The Holy Spirit has directed my efforts and helped me adopt an eco-friendly lifestyle. My home isn’t totally green but its pretty close.

    Now I’m working on my wardrobe, ridding myself of synthetic items, and opting for natural fabrics in their place. :)
     
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  17. Cis.jd

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    Kosher.
     
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  18. Cis.jd

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    There is a lot of good info on Kosher on those links i posted, especially how they are killed and various laws rooted in scripture.
     
  19. Lost4words

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    Surely, a bolt to the head is the most humane? Slitting the throat alone looks VERY inhumane.

    Those cows had their throats slit back to the spine and yet they were still very 'active' and aware!

    Anyway, i believe kosher was for the Jews.
     
  20. Jonaitis

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    I believe that is an unimportant matter.
     
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