Why do you reject parts of the bible?

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Specifically First and Second Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Baruch and Ecclesiasticus, also known as Sirach. All included in the bible 200 years before Christ's birth. They were inscribed in greek rather than Hebrew and as a result invalidated by Judaism and then Calvinism 1500 years later, but why does that invalidate them? Wrong language?

And most importantly, they existed during Christ's ministry and He never once spoke against them. If they were not the inspired word of God you'd think Jesus would have that high on His priorities list.

Or at least have mentioned it in passing.
 

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Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
Titus 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Titus 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.



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Specifically First and Second Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Baruch and Ecclesiasticus, also known as Sirach. All included in the bible 200 years before Christ's birth. They were inscribed in greek rather than Hebrew and as a result invalidated by Judaism and then Calvinism 1500 years later, but why does that invalidate them? Wrong language?

And most importantly, they existed during Christ's ministry and He never once spoke against them. If they were not the inspired word of God you'd think Jesus would have that high on His priorities list.

Or at least have mentioned it in passing.
If you were actually interested in an answer then i would be glad to give you one. Since it is clear that all you really want is an argument it isn't worth me wasting my time.

I would remind you that this is a place to ask questions not one for debate. Check the rules.
 
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Avatar said:
Specifically First and Second Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Baruch and Ecclesiasticus, also known as Sirach. All included in the bible 200 years before Christ's birth. They were inscribed in greek rather than Hebrew and as a result invalidated by Judaism and then Calvinism 1500 years later, but why does that invalidate them? Wrong language?

And most importantly, they existed during Christ's ministry and He never once spoke against them. If they were not the inspired word of God you'd think Jesus would have that high on His priorities list.

Or at least have mentioned it in passing.
They are NOT books of the Bible. And my Bible will not have non-Biblical additions to them.

They don't have the word of the Lord in them (or Paul either for that matter).

There were plenty of other religious documents existant during that day and the Lord didn't speak against them. Perhaps they should be included in the Bible even though there aren't any red letters in them.

Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory....

Your friendly neighborhood Cordial Calvinist
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Avatar said:
Specifically First and Second Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Baruch and Ecclesiasticus, also known as Sirach. All included in the bible 200 years before Christ's birth. They were inscribed in greek rather than Hebrew and as a result invalidated by Judaism and then Calvinism 1500 years later, but why does that invalidate them? Wrong language?

And most importantly, they existed during Christ's ministry and He never once spoke against them. If they were not the inspired word of God you'd think Jesus would have that high on His priorities list.

Or at least have mentioned it in passing.

Good day, Atavar

You will find that reformed people, stick to historical canon spoken of by Jerome, as it relates to the church though out history.

As the Church reads the books of Judith and Tobit and Maccabees but does not receive them among the canonical Scriptures, so also it reads Wisdom and Ecclesiasticus for the edification of the people, not for the authoritative confirmation of doctrine."

Jerome


Jerome's preface to the books of Solomon​


We do not uphold the Cannon created by your denomination at Trent. Like the early church reformed folk understand the historical nature of the Jewish canon, where as Trent in general was unable to do so.

Peace to u,

Bill
 
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BBAS 64 said:
Good day, Atavar

You will find that reformed people, stick to historical canon spoken of by Jerome, as it relates to the church though out history.

As the Church reads the books of Judith and Tobit and Maccabees but does not receive them among the canonical Scriptures, so also it reads Wisdom and Ecclesiasticus for the edification of the people, not for the authoritative confirmation of doctrine."

Jerome


Jerome's preface to the books of Solomon​


We do not uphold the Cannon created by your denomination at Trent. Like the early church reformed folk understand the historical nature of the Jewish canon, where as Trent in general was unable to do so.

Peace to u,

Bill

Just to add my perspective on the matter, the books affirmed to be in the Catholic Bible at the council of Trent may have been added in, but the apocryphal books are in the Eastern Orthodox Bible as much as they are in the Catholic Bible. Eastern Orthdoxy was separate from the Catholic church 500 years before the council of Trent, and the Eastern Orthodox churches had virtually no participation in the council of Trent or the Reformation.

Actually, the Eastern Orthodox Bible has a few more books than the Catholic Bible ;)

Somehow, I can't believe that books were added to the Catholic Bible during the council of Trent if Eastern Orthodoxy shares the same exact apocryphal books plus a few more.
 
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