LDS Why Do Mormons Build Temples?

[Albion]

From 1925 to 1984, the Grand Lodge of Utah prohibited members of the LDS Church from joining, but no other Grand Lodge followed this ban and Latter-day Saints were free to join Lodges outside Utah. In 1984, the Grand Lodge of Utah officially dropped its anti-Mormon position and allowed LDS Church members to join. Today there is no formal obstacle in Utah or in any other Grand Lodge preventing Latter-day Saints from becoming Freemasons. Since 1984 several of the Grand Masters of the Grand Lodge of Utah have been Latter-day Saints.

What does this have to do with the erroneous claim that Masonry is a religion?

 

[ToBeLoved]

What does this have to do with the erroneous claim that Masonry is a religion?

I think the point is that masonary is not a religion, but that it's rituals were incorporated into a religion.

God is not pagan. God does not accept pagan rituals in His name.

 

[Albion]

I think the point is that masonary is not a religion, but that it's rituals were incorporated into a religion..

Sure. I think I've made that point myself several times on CF.

Smith knew a little of Masonic symbols, rituals, etc. and helped himself to them when he started his religion. That isn't especially shocking or tell-tale. He did not do this with the permission of any Grand Lodge nor does him creating a new religion mean that Masonry itself is a religion (which we both seem to have agreed it is not).

 

[ToBeLoved]

Sure. I think I've made that point myself several times on CF.

Smith knew a little of Masonic symbols, rituals, etc. and helped himself to them when he started his religion. That isn't especially shocking or tell-tale. He did not do this with the permission of any Grand Lodge nor does him creating a new religion mean that Masonry itself is a religion (which we both seem to have agreed it is not).

Yes. I think we see it the same way.

 

[mmksparbud]

What and whom are you talking about here?

Thanks Tobeloved--I sometimes can't sign in to this site, I've asked tech support and they can't seem to figure it out either.

There was a rift between the Mormons and Freemasons after the Mormons went to Utah--it was recently healed.

"It's been nearly a quarter of a century since Freemasons in Utah rescinded a 60-year ban that prohibited Latter-day Saints from joining their fraternity. And while many remember the religious division that had characterized Freemasonry in the Beehive State from pioneer times, Glen Cook believes he is evidence that things are changing among his Masonic brethren."
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...the-first-in-a-century-who-is-LDS.html?pg=all

Here are siome other sites about the Mormon/Freemason connection:
http://www.ldsendowment.org/masonry.html
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/history/lds/mormonism.html

http://packham.n4m.org/mason-endow.htm

 

[Ironhold]

LDS apologist Jeff Lindsay actually made contact with someone who is both LDS *and* a Mason for their input -

http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_masons.shtml

 

[Albion]

This doesn't seem like much of a "rift."

A rift suggests an internal division in some organization or other. This history doesn't represent anything like that, although the long ago prohibition against the Mormons being Masons in Utah probably did have some Masons thinking that the policy should be changed. But this isn't a rift within the Grand Lodge of Utah, nor is it a fight between the Mormon church and the Grand Lodge. The policy was one way, and then it was changed, that's all.

 

[Albion]

LDS apologist Jeff Lindsay actually made contact with someone who is both LDS *and* a Mason for their input -

http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_masons.shtml

Lindsay certainly chose his words carefully in that article. What he's saying is that the Mormon ceremony in total is not derived from Masonic ritual, but that "elements" of it may have been taken from it.

 

[Kiwi Christian]

Mormonism claims to be the restoration of the early church and yet the early church did not build temples.

Also, the NT refers to the body of Christ as the Temple.

So why do Mormons believe we need Temples?

To keep its member under subjection.

 

[Jane_Doe]

To keep its member under subjection.

Source for this very bold claim?

 

[Kiwi Christian]

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