Why do dispensationalists chop up the bible into different ages?

[5thKingdom]

But the Kingdom of Heaven ultimately is the Millenial or Messianic Kingdom! The mystery form is the church, born at Pentecost and is being gathered from around the world!

If that were true then Jesus would NEVER call the Jewish people
the "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 22:2] or the "Kingdom of God"
[Mat 21:43].

So your theory is refuted as easily as that.

Jim
.

 

[5thKingdom]

The virgins are the rapture! Matt. 25 is almost exclusively the church age up to the rapture!

Of course the PROBLEM with that idea is it does not
harmonize with Scripture.


(1) First, the CONTEXT of the term "Kingdom of Heaven"
in Mat 25:1 is the Great Tribulation NOT the Great Commission.


(2) Secondly, the passage cannot possibly represent the Church Age
since verses 8-10 shows the Saints REFUSING to preach... and
sending people to some other (unnamed) group to find their
salvation. And that event NEVER HAPPENS during the
Great Commission... but it does happen during
the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".


Mat 25:8-10
And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our
lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so;
lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to
them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went
to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went
in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.


(3) The Biblical fact is: the Great Tribulation "Kingdom" is
the SAME period and people as the Revelation Beast and
the SAME period and people as Daniel's Fourth Beast.


And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case)
they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns
to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".


We see this reality as the Revelation Beast is destroyed
and as Daniel's Fourth Beast/Kingdom is destroyed and
as the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" ends with
the "Final Harvest" of the "wise virgins" (Last Saints).


Jim
.

 

[kenneth558]

Also you need to know that when Matthew ( a Jew) write His gospel, He substituted "heaven" for "god" in nearly all these verses. In deference to not offend Jewish people who still at the time would not say God!

Thank you for this comment. I noticed that phenomenon but wasn't sure the reason for it.

Of course, thanks also to 5thKingdom for prompting me to some Bible research that I don't remember doing before!

 

[5thKingdom]

Thank you for this comment. I noticed that phenomenon but wasn't sure the reason for it.

Of course, thanks also to 5thKingdom for prompting me to some Bible research that I don't remember doing before!

It is simply NOT TRUE that Matthew used "Kingdom of Heaven"
instead of "Kingdom of God" to appease the Jews. The terms
have DIFFERENT meanings.


While they can sometimes by used interchangeably, that is not
always the case. The "Kingdom of Heaven" can be used to show
the Kingdom of "wheat and tares" but the "Kingdom of God" can
ONLY be used to show the Kingdom of "wheat" (with no tares).


Just like the term "church" can often by used to show the
corporate "church" containing BOTH "wheat and tares" in
other passages the "church" represents ONLY the "wheat".


In this sense the term "church" representing ONLY the "wheat"
is a SUBSET of the term "church" representing BOTH the
saved "wheat" and the unsaved "tares".


It is the same with the terms "Kingdom of Heaven" which can
represent BOTH the "wheat and tares" (or only the "wheat")
and the "Kingdom of God" which can NEVER include "tares"


--------------------------------------------------------

The phrase "Kingdom of Heaven" is used thirty-three (33)
times in the Bible and every time the phrase represents
the many unsaved "tares" and/or the few saved "wheat",
associated with preaching the "Word of the Kingdom"
(the Gospel) during one of the FOUR KINGDOMS on earth...
or it represents ONLY the saved "wheat" harvested into
the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".

-------------------------------------------------------------

The four "Kingdoms of Heaven" are physical and temporal
Kingdoms... and there's a "harvest" of Saints at the end of
each, with the "Final Harvest" including only the "Wise Virgins"
living during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 25:1]

---------------------------------------------------------

The phrase "Kingdom of God" is used seventy (70) times
in the Bible and every time it represents the Holy Spirit of God
and/or the souls (but not the bodies) of the saved "wheat"
who have been regenerated by His "indwelling" Holy Spirit.
To be clear, the "Kingdom of God" is a SUBSET of
the "Kingdom of Heaven" since it only includes the saved
"wheat", and not the unsaved "tares".

---------------------------------

Therefore, the Bible can use the phrases interchangeably
when it focuses only on the "wheat" within the Kingdom.
When focused only on the "wheat", the Bible can use
"Kingdom of Heaven" OR "Kingdom of God". And that
is why we have several parallel passages in the Bible
that can (and do) interchange these two phrases.

-----------------------------------

 

[nolidad]

If you have studied eschatology then you will know that the
Bible PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand" mysteries
that remained "closed-up" and "sealed" to all previous Saints
[Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]


And these Last Saints shall PREACH these Biblical mysteries
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound" [Rev 10:7-11]


What I am showing you about the four "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal
"Kingdom of Heaven" is just PART of the mysteries of Daniel's
prophecies that God PROMISED would remain "sealed" until
preached by the Last Saints.


That is WHY you cannot find anything in the Bible to refute
these Biblical mysteries... because they are Biblical Truths.


Jim
.

So you join the ranks of Hal Lindsay, Edgar wisenat, David Koresh, Jehovah Witnesses, sun Yung Moon and a host of others who have pretended to have a secret hot line with God to get teh inside dope of as yet unfulfilled prophecies! YOu seem to forgfet the first trumpet hasn't even sounded yet so by your own rules you are supposed to still be in the dark!

The phrase "Kingdom of Heaven" is used thirty-three (33)
times in the Bible and every time the phrase represents
the many unsaved "tares" and/or the few saved "wheat",
associated with preaching the "Word of the Kingdom"
(the Gospel) during one of the FOUR KINGDOMS on earth...
or it represents ONLY the saved "wheat" harvested into
the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".

This is a lie!

The phrase "Kingdom of God" is used seventy (70) times
in the Bible and every time it represents the Holy Spirit of God
and/or the souls (but not the bodies) of the saved "wheat"
who have been regenerated by His "indwelling" Holy Spirit.
To be clear, the "Kingdom of God" is a SUBSET of
the "Kingdom of Heaven" since it only includes the saved
"wheat", and not the unsaved "tares".

Jim Jones was more accurate than you and he was way out in left field!

 

[nolidad]

There is just no way around this Biblical reality...
you can read it in your own Bible.

Question for you:

Who taught you this????

I can read the kingdom of heaven and the Kingdom of God in the Bible, but I have never read something even resembling your opinions in the Bible.

How long have you been following Jesus as of now?

 

[nolidad]

(3) The Biblical fact is: the Great Tribulation "Kingdom" is
the SAME period and people as the Revelation Beast and
the SAME period and people as Daniel's Fourth Beast.

As I have taught for over 35 years now! You can call it akingdom of heaven, but you are not biblically accurate, but that is just mincing words.

And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case)
they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns
to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".

Well the NT calls this the millenial or thousand year kingdom. The OT and gospels call it the Messianic kingdom or kingdom promised to the nation of Israel. Jesus preached that till Matt. 12, then when Israel through the pharisees rejected the offer, it was postponed and the mystery form of the kingdom (the church visible in the world comprised of believer and unbeliever) began.

While they can sometimes by used interchangeably, that is not
always the case. The "Kingdom of Heaven" can be used to show
the Kingdom of "wheat and tares" but the "Kingdom of God" can
ONLY be used to show the Kingdom of "wheat" (with no tares).

Read your bible more and get out of your own head!

Mark 4:11
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Mark 4:26
And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Mark 4:30
And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

The synoptics prove your hypothesis wrong!

If that were true then Jesus would NEVER call the Jewish people
the "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 22:2] or the "Kingdom of God"
[Mat 21:43].

So your theory is refuted as easily as that.

Well He didn't call the Jewish nation the kingdom! People are not a kingdom! But the kingdom was pulled from that generation of Jews to be given to another generation yet to come. (Matt. 21)

And MAt.. 22 shows the action of the king in the kingdom- He invited Israel first, many rejwected so He now is bringing in the gentiles! That is why these times since Pentecost have been labelled the mystery form of the kingdom. A biblical mystery is simply something hidden in the OT and revealed in the new!

 

[nolidad]

Thank you for this comment. I noticed that phenomenon but wasn't sure the reason for it.

Of course, thanks also to 5thKingdom for prompting me to some Bible research that I don't remember doing before!

I am meeting this Saturday with the elders of my church to set a date to do a year long study on Eschatology--again! I have taught it many times over the past 35 years, from Bible Colleges ot Bible institutes to bible studies.

I try to avoid sensationalism, "newspaper exegesis", and keep things not clearly known as "possibles".

In the class, I talk about the times of the gentiles, the four kingdoms of the time of the gentiles (which is still ongoing), Israel, Gentiles, the difference between the gospel of Grace (salvation) versus the gospel of the kingdom (which involves salvation with other things).
Why we can know we are living in the last days.
Why the rapture is pre-trib based on biblical reasons for the 70th week of Daniel.
Why the church ends at teh rapture
The difference between pre ISrael saints, OT Israel saints, chruch saints and trib saints. (it is all just for life in teh millenial kingdom)
Amongst many other materials involved in end times studies. Like th eOlivet discourse, the enormous amount of passages in the OT describing the millenial kingdom, the antichrist, the different names the 'bible gives to teh tribulation and of course the events that lead to the tribulation as well as the tribulation itself.

 

[5thKingdom]

So you join the ranks of Hal Lindsay, Edgar wisenat, David Koresh, Jehovah Witnesses, sun Yung Moon and a host of others who have pretended to have a secret hot line with God to get teh inside dope of as yet unfulfilled prophecies! YOu seem to forgfet the first trumpet hasn't even sounded yet so by your own rules you are supposed to still be in the dark!

I gave you a Bible verse [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]
which says the Last Saints "shall understand" what was "sealed"
to all previous Saints.

Jesus said the same thing [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] that the
Last Saints "shall see ALL THESE THINGS"

And we know [Rev 10:7-11] the Last Saints shall preach these
Biblical mysteries as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound".

So I have done nothing but quote Scriptures to you...
and you insult me with ad hominem statements.

(1) Whether you like it or not... the BIBLE (not me)
says the things I quoted above. Do you REJECT what
the Bible says?

(2) How do you know the first Trumpet has not sounded?
How do you know the Fifth and Sixth Trumpet have not
sounded?


.

 

[5thKingdom]

I am meeting this Saturday with the elders of my church to set a date to do a year long study on Eschatology--again! I have taught it many times over the past 35 years, from Bible Colleges ot Bible institutes to bible studies.

I try to avoid sensationalism, "newspaper exegesis", and keep things not clearly known as "possibles".

In the class, I talk about the times of the gentiles, the four kingdoms of the time of the gentiles (which is still ongoing), Israel, Gentiles, the difference between the gospel of Grace (salvation) versus the gospel of the kingdom (which involves salvation with other things).
Why we can know we are living in the last days.
Why the rapture is pre-trib based on biblical reasons for the 70th week of Daniel.
Why the church ends at teh rapture
The difference between pre ISrael saints, OT Israel saints, chruch saints and trib saints. (it is all just for life in teh millenial kingdom)
Amongst many other materials involved in end times studies. Like th eOlivet discourse, the enormous amount of passages in the OT describing the millenial kingdom, the antichrist, the different names the 'bible gives to teh tribulation and of course the events that lead to the tribulation as well as the tribulation itself.

I am glad to hear you are studying eschatology.
BTW... the church age ends at Matthew 25:1 not the rapture.
And the Last "wheat and tares" (called ten "virgins" in Mat 25
and called ten "kings/horns" in Dan 7 and Rev 17 and called
ten "kings" in Dan 2:44)... these last "wheat and tares"
live through the Great Tribulation.

I am assuming you already know the Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven" (consisting of the ten "virgins") is
the SAME Kingdom as the Revelation Beast (consisting
of ten "kings/horns") and the SAME Kingdom as Daniel's
Fourth Kingdom (containing ten "kings/horns")

I assume you know that because, in each case, these
ten "kings/horns/virgins" are the PEOPLE living on earth
when the Lord Returns, the resurrection occurs, the Last
Saints are "changed" in the "twinkling of an eye" and Satan
and Death are cast into the Lake of Fire.

I invite you and your church elders to go to this website:
www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com

See if you can find ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts
anything on that site. I will warn you this information has
already been TESTED by (literally) HUNDREDS of some of
the most esteemed theologians teaching at some of the
most prestigious seminaries in America and NONE of them
were able to find even ONE VERSE that contradicts the info
on the website. You can see a partial-list of these theologians
on the "Recipients Page".

I highly recommend you look at chapter 7 to see the historical
fulfillment of "Babylon the Great" and chapter 8 to see the actual
fulfillment of Daniel's "Abomination" in about TWO DOZEN different
passages.

I hope you teach your elders about the
Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matt 22:2-7 and the
Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matt 13 (in 8 verses) and the
Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matt 25:1-13

The history of mankind is a REFLECTION of God's salvation plan
over four separate-and-distinct "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth.
And the only "Kingdom of Heaven" NOT specifically NAMED
by Jesus is the (1st) Pre-Flood "Kingdom" containing all
the Saints from Adam to Noah.

Jim
.

 

[5thKingdom]

As I have taught for over 35 years now! You can call it akingdom of heaven, but you are not biblically accurate, but that is just mincing words.
!

First, I have taught eschatology for almost 50 years so I am not impressed with your
resume and I would NEVER expect you to understand because the Bible PROMISES that
you cannot [Dan 12:8-10]


Second, you need to understand that it is not ME that specifically NAMED four different
"Kingdoms of Heaven"... it was JESUS who specifically NAMED these Kingdoms.
The words "Kingdom of Heaven" are in YOUR BIBLE friend... I did not put them there.


So whatever criticism you have should be directed at Jesus not me.
You can tell JESUS that He is not "Biblically accurate" to NAME these Kingdoms.


.

 

[5thKingdom]

Read your bible more and get out of your own head!

Mark 4:11
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Mark 4:26
And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Mark 4:30
And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

The synoptics prove your hypothesis wrong!

On the contrary... you only PROVED my point.
I already told you the "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Kingdom of God"
can be interchangeable under certain circumstances... for you to quote
what I have already taught is nothing more than confirming my teaching.

You did not quote any "Kingdom of God" that contains unsaved "tares"...
that would prove my teaching wrong... but you did not do it because you cannot.

Really I have seen MUCH BETTER attempts to disprove what I taught.
You actually flatter me by confirming what I taught.
Thank you

.

 

[Jack Terrence]

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[Jack Terrence]

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[Jack Terrence]

Well He didn't call the Jewish nation the kingdom! People are not a kingdom! But the kingdom was pulled from that generation of Jews to be given to another generation yet to come. (Matt. 21)

And MAt.. 22 shows the action of the king in the kingdom- He invited Israel first, many rejwected so He now is bringing in the gentiles! That is why these times since Pentecost have been labelled the mystery form of the kingdom. A biblical mystery is simply something hidden in the OT and revealed in the new!

Everything you say here is patently false. Not one word is true.

1. People are a kingdom
2. The kingdom was not given to another generation. It was PROMPTLY given to another nation.
3. The bible nowhere says that these times since Pentecost have been labelled the so called "mystery form" of the kingdom.

You speak not even one syllable of truth.

 

[5thKingdom]

Question for you: Who taught you this????
I can read the kingdom of heaven and the Kingdom of God in the Bible,
but I have never read something even resembling your opinions in the Bible.
How long have you been following Jesus as of now?

(1) God taught this to me and others... through Scripture.
And it's not my "opinion", it's Biblical Truth. It cannot be refuted
(only denied). Hundreds (literally) of theologians have already tried
to refute it and NONE could.


(2) And I have been a preacher for almost 50 years now.
But the things I am showing you have only been "revealed"
since the beginning of the "Season and Time" (do you know
WHAT that is?) about 9 years ago.


(3) The reason why you never heard these truths before is
God PROMISED to keep the truth about Daniel's prophecies
"closed-up" and "sealed" until the Last Saints who "shall understand"
these mysteries. [Dan 12:4, and 12:8-10]


(4) So for almost 2000 years the Bible had verses about the
Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"and the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
and the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" in addition to the
Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" but no Saint ever understood what
they were reading... pretty amazing since Jesus specifically NAMED
each of these Kingdoms.


(5) For almost 2000 years the Saints thought the Great Tribulation
was part (the end) of the Christian Kingdom... when it's really it's own
separate "Kingdom of Heaven", which begins when the Great
Commission is finished and all the Saints are "sealed".


(6) So the Revelation Beast(s) consist of the SAME PEOPLE as those
living during the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and the SAME
PEOPLE as those living in Daniel's Fourth Beast/Kingdom. In each case
they are the people alive on earth when the Lord Returns to establish
the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"


(7) In Matthew 25:1-13 these people are called the ten "virgins"
that "went forth" from their churches to follow the Antichrist during
the Great Tribulation Kingdom. In Revelation 17 these same people
are called the ten "kings/horns" that "agreed to give their Kingdom
to the Beast" [Rev 17:12-13, and 17] In Daniel 7 these same people
are (again) called ten "kings/horns" that are "given into his
[the Antichrist's] hand for 3.5 times" [Dan 7:24-25]


(8) The destruction of Daniel's Fourth Beast, as it is "given to the
Burning Flame" [Dan 7:11-12] is the same event as the destruction
of the Revelation Beast(s) as it is "cast alive into the Lake of Fire"
[Rev 19:20]


I could go on like this for hours. But the point is, God PROMISED
the Last Saints "shall understand" all these mysteries [Dan 12:8-10]
and Jesus PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see ALL these things"...
fulfillment of Great Tribulation prophecies [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] and
the Bible PROMISED the Last Saints would preach these Biblical
mysteries as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound" [Rev 10:7-11]


Please know that, I do not expect you to understand or believe
any of this because the Bible PROMISES only the Last Saints
"shall understand". But we are commanded to preach these
Biblical mysteries in this "Season and Time"... so that's what
we are doing.


Jim
.

 

[nolidad]

I gave you a Bible verse [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]
which says the Last Saints "shall understand" what was "sealed"
to all previous Saints.

Jesus said the same thing [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] that the
Last Saints "shall see ALL THESE THINGS"

And we know [Rev 10:7-11] the Last Saints shall preach these
Biblical mysteries as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound".

So I have done nothing but quote Scriptures to you...
and you insult me with ad hominem statements.

(1) Whether you like it or not... the BIBLE (not me)
says the things I quoted above. Do you REJECT what
the Bible says?

(2) How do you know the first Trumpet has not sounded?
How do you know the Fifth and Sixth Trumpet have not
sounded?


.

Tell you what- submit that to your elders and let them confirm i t! God said saints not one saint who goes by 5th kingdom! I have no problem with teh Scriptures you gave-- but it is your oppinions as to what YOU think they mean that is very problematic!

How do I know the trumpet have not sounded??

7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

Because none of these events have happened as they must!!!!!! Even if they are symbolic (which I cannot believe from the hundreds of imaginative interpretations offered for these), no events have ever come close to being even a symbolic fulfillment of these trumpet judgments!

It is not the word of God you bring, but you r retranslation of His Word I have issue with!.

 

[nolidad]

See if you can find ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts
anything on that site. I will warn you this information has
already been TESTED by (literally) HUNDREDS of some of
the most esteemed theologians teaching at some of the
most prestigious seminaries in America and NONE of them
were able to find even ONE VERSE that contradicts the info
on the website. You can see a partial-list of these theologians
on the "Recipients Page".

When I havd time I will look. But before I do, list me ten of these most esteeemed theologians and their seminaries who actually gave you a positive response and said you r allegorical interpretation was a correct allegorical interpretation. Almost all I saw are covenant and allegorical minded schools (except Dallas)

of all these you wrote to- how many wrote back positively? how many wrote back saying they disagree?

I will refute one thing in th eis post

I assume you know that because, in each case, these
ten "kings/horns/virgins" are the PEOPLE living on earth
when the Lord Returns, the resurrection occurs, the Last
Saints are "changed" in the "twinkling of an eye" and Satan
and Death are cast into the Lake of Fire.

According to Gods Word Satan and death are thrown into the lake of fire over 1,000 years after Jesus returned to earth!

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose f

You did not quote any "Kingdom of God" that contains unsaved "tares"...
that would prove my teaching wrong... but you did not do it because you cannot.

I did but you ignored it. But here is the post and not just the verse!

Mark 4:

2 And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,

3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:

4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.

5 And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:

6 But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.

7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.

8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.

9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.

11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?

14 The sower soweth the word.

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;

17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

Jesus calls this the kingdom of God!

 

[nolidad]

First, I have taught eschatology for almost 50 years so I am not impressed with your
resume and I would NEVER expect you to understand because the Bible PROMISES that
you cannot [Dan 12:8-10]


Second, you need to understand that it is not ME that specifically NAMED four different
"Kingdoms of Heaven"... it was JESUS who specifically NAMED these Kingdoms.
The words "Kingdom of Heaven" are in YOUR BIBLE friend... I did not put them there.


So whatever criticism you have should be directed at Jesus not me.
You can tell JESUS that He is not "Biblically accurate" to NAME these Kingdoms.


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No do not blame Jesus for your mystical magical opinions of what He had to say!

Allegorists like you are a dime a dozen! You all spout your opinion and then say it was special revelation given to you by god to understand what was sealed until the last days. Most have fallen by the wayside, the others like yourself shall as well. You all cite special meanings. You all say it is all biblical and try to silence criticism by saying it is the Bible and not your opinion!

You say you are unimpressede by my resume. That is fine. For I am not impressed with all the covenant theologians you threw this opinionated interpretation of Gds Word either.

Show me ten letters of praise for your allegory. So much of your work is so shoddy and combines passages together wrongly based on biblical numerology, that a number appears in different places, or that passages have a similarity! I say to you like I tell all others guilty of this:

Close enough is not good enough with god!

 

[nolidad]

Everything you say here is patently false. Not one word is true.

1. People are a kingdom
2. The kingdom was not given to another generation. It was PROMPTLY given to another nation.
3. The bible nowhere says that these times since Pentecost have been labelled the so called "mystery form" of the kingdom.

You speak not even one syllable of truth.

Oh well, because you say it , it must all be true! NOT.

When you have read more Scripture, get back to me so you will see teh Messianic Kingdom for Israel is postponed.

I will give you one verse to ponder: Acts 1:

6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Jesus did not tell teh Apostles I srael was done for! He said wjhen Israel gets the kingdom is up to the Father!

The Bible doesn't specifically call teh church age teh mystery form of the kingdom. But the Parables do! REad the first, learn th edefinitions Jesus gave for the symbols and learn that teh church is wheat, a pearl and the good fish etc.