Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

[Luke17:37]

Considering that one kind mutating into another is a sudden event, the likelihood of finding the first mutation would be zero.

How convenient that the likelihood of finding a lynchpin of the theory is zero.

 

[miamited]

In 2005 I received the truth that God was real and the Bible was His infallible word for us. 2006 was my strongest year in my zest for God. I also believed in evolution and believed in an old earth model, but those things were trivial to me because it didn't matter to me. It wasn't until maybe 2 years ago I learned just how wrong the theory of evolution was, and quite frankly how dangerous it is to young believers.
What I'm saying is we don't see all truths as soon as you have the Holy Spirit, but when we continue to walk with God the Holy Spirit will lead us to all truths (John 16:13) and in His due time.

It must be understood also that there are Christians that have weak faith while others have a stronger faith in the Lord. Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

It is indeed true that many on that day will say "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’" Then Jesus will tell them plainly, "I never knew you depart from me ye that work iniquity!" Hence the reason for the necessity for the theory of evolution. Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? (Romans 9.21)

God uses many for His purpose, all we can do is remain humble to His word. Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life. Noone comes to the father except through him. There is no other road, no other way to eternal life; whoever teaches contrary to that is of the world and is an antichrist.

Hi abraxos,

I agree with all that you've said. I too, have this gut feeling, which I believe to be a conviction of the Spirit, that this issue of believing God may well play into God's determination of which ones are faithful to him. My spirit is honestly troubled that God is expecting His children to believe Him. That when we come to accept the truth of Jesus testimony and trust in his sacrifice for our sin that an inward change occurs in our hearts and minds. We should no longer follow the 'truth' and 'wisdom' of man, but rather we will begin to understand and follow and believe the 'truth' of God. If we know the truth based on all that we are taught by men, then what's the purpose of the Holy Spirit leading us into all truth? Don't we already know 'all' truth.

I mean, we've accepted Jesus as Lord, and we believe all the truth that we've learned from man. What other truth is there that comprises this 'all truth' that Jesus is speaking of?

God is on record that He is a jealous God. Would that jealousy extend to the hearts and minds of His children. Is He likely to be angered that those who proclaim His name tell others that we can't honestly believe the fairly plain and simple truth of the time of creation that He repeated for us three times in the Scriptures? Even though He clearly tells us that each day consisted of an evening and a morning just like every day that has passed since. Even today, it is only a sunrise to sunrise day that consists of an evening and a morning. A week consists of several evenings and mornings. An age even more. His description says one singular evening and one singular morning comprised each day of creation. He doesn't say, 'And there were the evenings and the mornings of the first day'. And I personally believe that God caused His Spirit to cause men to write the creation account in just that way as a definer of the length of the days to us.

God is wiser than we could ever think to imagine. He knows the hearts and minds of men. He knows the beginning from the end. God knew when He was prompting men to write down His Scriptures that a time would come when men would argue this very issue. Because of His wisdom and foreknowledge, He had 'evening and morning' written to answer these very questions for the believer who has the Spirit leading him into 'all' truth. The Scriptures speak of a deception that is so strong that even the elect might fall for it if God didn't shorten the days of the end. What is that deception? Is it at all possible that this very issue is that deception? That it is so strong that even the elect might fall under it?

Finally, for me, it does rob God of some of His glory, if we teach that God just started something that over ages and ages became, through natural processes all that we see vs. God created everything that we see pretty much just the way it is. In my mind there is a difference between two gods. One being a God that is so powerful that He can set something in motion and the other a God that is so powerful that He can create everything perfect and good from the moment of its inception. For the later God the heavens declare the glory of God. For the first the heavens only declare a partial glory. The rest all came about through natural processes for which God had nothing to with, other than perhaps He set those natural processes in motion.

Anyway, that's my understanding of this issue. However, I allow that each one believes what they have convinced themselves is the truth. My caution is that we must be very careful if what we believe to be the truth is based on the wisdom and knowledge of man (666) rather than the wisdom and knowledge of God.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[Hieronymus]

I too, have this gut feeling, which I believe to be a conviction of the Spirit, that this issue of believing God may well play into God's determination of which ones are faithful to him.

Seems obvious, doesn't it?

 

[Luke17:37]

Seems obvious, doesn't it?

Yes. And disbelieving God on the clear beginning provides a nice foundation for disbelieving God on the clear end (2 Peter 3:3-9).

 

[Hieronymus]

Let's also not forget that the world shows us a selection of fossils and archaeological finds, and hides some as well.
Dishonesty...

Have a look at this:

 

[Hieronymus]

Yes. And disbelieving God on the clear beginning provides a nice foundation for disbelieving God on the clear end (2 Peter 3:3-9).

This is clearly reflected in Christians who choose to subscribe to naturalistic ideas.
But are they to blame?
Iḿ not sure...
It took me years to de-programme evolutionary thinking.
It's also (still) hard to believe that (popular) science and education have been raped to indoctrinate us with naturaism and evolutionism.
Maybe that's even harder to believe than the Word of God.
This also raises tough questions about why God would allow this.

 

[Luke17:37]

This is clearly reflected in Christians who choose to subscribe to naturalistic ideas.
But are they to blame?
Iḿ not sure...
It took me years to de-programme evolutionary thinking.
It's also (still) hard to believe that (popular) science and education have been raped to indoctrinate us with naturaism and evolutionism.
Maybe that's even harder to believe than the Word of God.
This also raises tough questions about why God would allow this.

Romans 1 says we're to blame if we refuse to honor/thank/acknowledge the Creator and people who do this are worshipping and serving the creature rather than the Creator. God calls this ungodliness and unrighteousness and a reason for His wrath (Romans 1:18).

The evolution or millions of years indoctrination is strong and as we can see on here, many Christians have fallen for it. Yesterday I was teaching my sixth grade girls (11 years old) discipleship group about the age of the earth and Biblical authority versus man's authority. I told them to be aware that they will face ridicule even from Christians for believing God's Word, but that's okay.

I personally had the benefit of growing up in the church, and I believed the Bible from a young age. My parents also homeschooled me for most of my pre-college education, so I didn't have as much in-your-face evolution in my formative years.

I'm glad the Holy Spirit guided you to the truth.

 

[BiblicalAstronomy]

That doesn't work, BiblcialAstronom. Job 40:15 says, "But consider the chief of beasts, the crocodile..." and then goes on to describe the behavior of these creatures. So no way is Job referring to dinosaurs.

No way Job is referring to regular Crocs, that is why it calls Leviathan the "Chief of Beasts," here-never a title associated with modern day crocs! If you've ever seen the History Channel show on Dino-Croc, you'll see what I'm talking about...

 

[Hieronymus]

Romans 1 says we're to blame if we refuse to honor/thank/acknowledge the Creator and people who do this are worshipping and serving the creature rather than the Creator. God calls this ungodliness and unrighteousness and a reason for His wrath (Romans 1:18).

Obviously the false teachers have taken upon themselves a big part of the responsibility. Woe unto them.
I mean, i can't blame people for believing in evolution.

The evolution or millions of years indoctrination is strong and as we can see on here, many Christians have fallen for it.

So i have noticed...

Yesterday I was teaching my sixth grade girls (11 years old) discipleship group about the age of the earth and Biblical authority versus man's authority. I told them to be aware that they will face ridicule even from Christians for believing God's Word, but that's okay.

I think it is not okay.
It frustrates the heck out of me...

I personally had the benefit of growing up in the church, and I believed the Bible from a young age. My parents also homeschooled me for most of my pre-college education, so I didn't have as much in-your-face evolution in my formative years.

I'm glad the Holy Spirit guided you to the truth.

Glory to God.

 

[Luke17:37]

Yesterday I was teaching my sixth grade girls (11 years old) discipleship group about the age of the earth and Biblical authority versus man's authority. I told them to be aware that they will face ridicule even from Christians for believing God's Word, but that's okay.

I think it is not okay.
It frustrates the heck out of me...

It frustrates me, too, sometimes, but I consider it a form of the persecution we are promised (2 Timothy 3:12) and thus I rejoice (Matthew 5:12).

 

[Hieronymus]

It frustrates me, too, sometimes, but I consider it a form of the persecution we are promised (2 Timothy 3:12) and thus I rejoice (Matthew 5:12).

Unfortunately i'm not that good at N.L.P.

 

[Extraneous]

Notice that biblical definition of division is not disagreement over earthly things - it's about teachings contrary to the [sound] doctrine.

Its any disagreement. The world is contrary to sound doctrine because the enemy controls this world. John says to not love this world or the things in it. Jesus says we must lay down our lives and follow Him. Im not saying we must discard Genesis BTW, but rather that we discard politics, and that we not allow science to to define what is sound doctrine, because doctrine is discerned by the spirit, not the natural world.

 

[Extraneous]

To answer this question very simply, some Christians don't accept evolution because they have some differences in how they view the bible then the Christians who do agree with evolution.

Im against it because its mans wisdom, Mankind will fall into delusion. I have seen the theory, and its not water tight, but rather built on assumption, in my opinion. I dont understand why we must follow this theory. It only divides Christians, and it wont help the world follow Christ either. You are in effect turning scientists into prophets. They are however false prophets of a man made religious notion. They do not seek God but rather a way to disprove him. Thats what ToE is. Its mans attempt to explain mans own existence without God. To the natural man it seems foolish to believe in the bible, but thats the way God has made it to be. Without His spirit mankind is blind and will think he is wise.

 

[Extraneous]

Let's also not forget that the world shows us a selection of fossils and archaeological finds, and hides some as well.
Dishonesty...

Have a look at this:

Yes indeed, ToE is less than a genuine, open minded, pure science.

 

[Colter]

How convenient that the likelihood of finding a lynchpin of the theory is zero.

How convenient that you ignore the many layers of fossils within the sediments of the MANY floods over many years.

How convenient that you cant show the proof of the young earth, 6 day creation, a time when all living things lived at the same time.

 

[Hieronymus]

Yes indeed, ToE is less than a genuine, open minded, pure science.

That's putting it mildly i.m.o.

 

[Extraneous]

How convenient that you ignore the many layers of fossils within the sediments of the MANY floods over many years.

How convenient that you cant show the proof of the young earth, 6 day creation, a time when all living things lived at the same time.

How convenient for you you to dismiss scripture as nothing more than fallible words written by man, but then blindly accept a fallible theory such as ToE.

 

[Colter]

Original sin and the sin nature of man is a theory? Death was already on the earth before sin? Have you not read these passages?

Psalm 14:1–3 (NKJV)
1 The fool has said in his heart,“There is no God.”
They are corrupt,
They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good.
2 The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men,
To see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
3 They have all turned aside,
They have together become corrupt;
There is none who does good,
No, not one.

Isaiah 59:2 (NKJV)
2 But your iniquities have separated you from your God;
And your sins have hidden His face from you,
So that He will not hear.

Isaiah 53:5–6 (NKJV)
5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

Romans 5:12 (NKJV)
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—

1 Corinthians 15:21–22 (NKJV)
21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

You are being the judge of Scripture - the concepts and passages you can live with, you accept. The ones you don't like, you reject. That is foolish.



Yes, God is your authority, but doesn't God reveals Himself through the Scripture and through the person of Jesus Christ (Who we get to know through Scripture)? Do you want to know what He wants from you before Judgment Day? You'll find it in the Bible.

Do you think it is better to "open minded" and reject Scripture? When Jesus talked to the Pharisees and the Sadducees, His responses to them often began with, "Have you not read?" (Matthew 12:1-8, Matthew 19:3-9, Matthew 22:23-33). Yes, they read the Scriptures but their problem was that they didn't believe them. In Matthew 15:8, Jesus called them hypocrites and He quoted Isaiah 29:13:

Isaiah 29:13 (NKJV)
13 Therefore the Lord said:
“Inasmuch as these people draw near with their mouths
And honor Me with their lips,
But have removed their hearts far from Me,
And their fear toward Me is taught by the commandment of men,

Since Christ died for sinners, the religious leaders who killed Him are not the only ones to blame. He died because of the sins of the people who become His Church (Jew and Gentile, male and female, of every language, tribe and nation)... including mine.

* The crafty beast had already fallen before he began working to trip up Adam and Eve.

* Adam and Eve arrived on earth as two adults, previously educated. They spoke the same language as the beast.

* Life had already evolved on this old earth; Cain and Able made contributions to a religious order. "Flocks" and "fields"???? There were many more people than just Adams family.

* After killing his brother, Cain decided to leave his parents, he fears tribes out in the world. God even agrees, puts a "mark" on him. Cain finds a wife among the Nodites.

* Imperfection of Gods children may be inevitable, but Sin is a choice.

* Paul never knew Jesus, he never heard Jesus preach the original gospel, he brought his own Pagan beliefs to the remixed gospel that emerged after the cross. Paul and others are simply wrong to speculate that one man brought Sin into the world. Besides, to follow the story as it is written in the Bible it's more accurate to say "one fallen angel" brought sin into the world.

 

[Colter]

How convenient for you you to dismiss scripture as nothing more than fallible words written by man, but then blindly accept a fallible theory such as ToE.

I don't blindly accept evolution, proof is in the fossil record. However it is fair to say you blindly accept the pseudo-biographical creation story of the Hebrews.

 

[Colter]