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Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

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Lets do the timeline then... how long does evolution say there have been living creatures on the planet? Let's start with the cambria period some 500 million years ago... not a lot going on, a few early species of fish and invertebrates... how many species are estimated to be in the earth today? According to Wiki about 10-14 million..
Estimates on the number of Earth's current species range from 10 million to 14 million,[4] Miller & Spoolman 2012, p. 62
https://books.google.com/books?id=NYEJAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA62
So lets do some simple math shall, we? 500 million years divided by 14 million species is 35 years for each species to be created, on average. Of course this does not take in to account extinction rates. According to evolutionary science, there have been 5 major extinction events that wiped out, according to them 99.9% of all species.



Using the number given of 500 million years and 14 million current species, averages 35 years per species. That is not taking into account the quoted mass extinction events which would drop this average to a couple of years even days for each species to come into existence. There should be a plethora of living evidence of these mutations occurring in our world today if the "scientists" number are to be believed. but yet, we have nothing and have had nothing for the last 150 years.

Number don't lie... isn't it amazing that simple, God given common sense can refute "science so called".
 
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Oh, right, as evidenced by that mandatory Sunday church law Obama and the Pope just passed?

Sunday Church, Evolution, its all worldly distraction. There is only one mind, the mind of Christ. There is only one king and kingdom, and only one cross. We all share it, or not.
 
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That would be great, IF evolution occurred along a single line. It doesn't. One species can evolve into two, each of them evolve into two, and so on. The biological ancestral tree is just that, a tree, not a line.
 
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So the millions of people around the world who accept it are irrational, you're the only one who sees the evil science conspiracy for what it is?

The Pope comes and and says that evolution doesnt necessarily conflict with the scriptures, and every Catholic goes out to rally for evolution. However, the Pope is hardly infallible. Respectfully said.
 
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The Pope comes and and says that evolution doesnt necessarily conflict with the scriptures, and every Catholic goes out to rally for evolution. However, the Pope is hardly infallible. Respectfully said.
He's plain wrong when he says that.
 
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Oh, right, as evidenced by that mandatory Sunday church law Obama and the Pope just passed?
Because the Bible says so... your disdain is blinding you.

Rev 12:12
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
 
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Because the Bible says so... your disdain is blinding you.

Rev 12:12
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
A short time once he's here, not from now. If I misunderstood you, I apologise, but I took you to be making another prediction of apocalyptic imminence.
 
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A short time once he's here, not from now. If I misunderstood you, I apologise, but I took you to be making another prediction of apocalyptic imminence.

Heaven is our refuge from the enemy. Why do you think that Paul tells us to look toward heaven instead of things on the earth? We are hidden in Christ, with God in heaven.
 
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Truth be known, there can be no evolution to that which has occurred in the twinkling of an eye. But if you want to call the telling of His story (history), "evolution", then you abide not in what is evolving, but in that which is finished, and will not know the truth until the end.
 
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No science, not even evolution, denies the existence of G-d. That is because science does not study the question. The problem is with those who believe that Genesis is an accurate history and science book. If Genesis says that something occurred then those people look for proof of that it happened. In science, evidence is used to reach conclusion, which then is studied to show that they it is wrong. Only after such challenges fail to disprove a conclusion does it become a theory. However, the striving to invalidate a theory never ends.

That Genesis is historically and scientifically accurate is something that has never been accepted in my religion. While we would like to think that some of it is based on actual history, we consider Torah, even Genesis, books of moral and ethical teachings from G-d. Therefore, if science shows that an event did not occur, we have not problem with that, nor we consider that as evidence against the existence of G-d.

Genesis starts with "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." There is no explanation as to His origin, nature, or goals. That is the beginning of Judaism, the acceptance of G-d by faith alone, with no evidence needed, and therefore, no evidence against His existence possible. As a result, we consider Torah as the beginning of inquiry, not the end of it.

Our sages say that Genesis was written as it was because G-d knew that we could not possible understand how it actually happened. Here we are some 6000 years later and science is just beginning to unlock the secrets of how the universe began and how life came to be. Some 800 years ago one of our greatest sages, Maimonides, wrote, "You will certainly not doubt the necessity of studying astronomy and physics, if you are desirous of comprehending the relation between the world and Providence as it is in reality, and not according to imagination."

It is why Judaism sees no conflict between science and belief in G-d.

I apologize for being so verbose, but I've always been long winded.
 
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