Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

[Shadowprophet]

Couldn't there be a feminine dimension to God, Johnny? I mean, you are turning God into the stereotype- of the tough male warrior, cold, unemotional, rigid, etc. Certainly God has passive, empathic, receptive dimensions as well. At leas I think so.

I feel that to add feminine qualities to the lord God would be a mistake.. Gods gender was not secret,, It speaks of his gender many times. and his dislike for unnatural gender crossing.. God is male. point blank,, A manly man,,,,

 

[Hoghead1]

The way I picture it, Shadowprophet, the universe is the body of God. I don't know any other metaphor that does justice to God's great senility and intimacy with all things. Yes, God is o ne heck of a giant personal, humanlike being.

 

[Hoghead1]

It is questionable, Keltoi, whether the Bible has in mind creatio ex nihilo. The first verses of Genesis do not make it clear whether God is creating out of nothing, or out of a preexisting chaos. God does snot cerate humans out of nothing, but out of dust. God does not crate the adult our of nothing, but out of the child.

 

[Shadowprophet]

In a dream once, I saw a representation of God,, In my dream,, he looked like a younger man,, about 31.. I don't believe God ages.. And I am not saying what I saw in my dream is literal. But, I feel that god is probably very attractive and in perfect shape..

 

[Alithis]

That isn't at all accurate, Alithis. Science is not at all equipped to investigate what happens after death. Furthermore, you made some questionable claims about God. All things are possible with God? OK, does that mean God can do evil? If all things are possible, then it is possible God will do evil. Do you believe that? Does that mean God can create a stone so heavy that he can't lift it? Divine omnipotence I think is a major theological mistake. It denies human freedom and makes God the author of evil.

has god ever done Evil ? we mustn't be as jobs friends who falsely accused God of evil .
Does making somthing you can't do anything with sound like wisdom to you ?- he is all wise ..he is also Spirit .. when he became flesh - a part of the outer created , could he lift a boulder, no . but he is Spirit and not carnal not created therefore need not lift anything but by his word his will is done .

and again ..if i cannot trust him at his word ,how can i trust him to save me ?
evolution is simply a lie .its always been a lie it wil always be a lie no matter what colour you paint it .
when he comes and the heaven roll up like a scroll to reveal him . wil the heavens evolve over millions of years ..?
no as he has said so it is ,as he has said so it wil be .
stop regurgitating unbelief in god and faith in ever changing ever self contradicting science

 

[Shadowprophet]

If I told my experience, of when I saw God in my dream,, Would it even matter,, to those would be believe it or not, it is a description from a dream of a stranger.. But, for what it's worth,, I feel like I may have seen his human form..

 

[Hoghead1]

It's true,Shadowprophet, that the Bible describes God as male. However, it was males who wrote the Bible, also males coming from a warrior culture. Traditionally, women have been stereotyped as being the emotional one, the passive, empathic, receptive ones. Truth is, however, males also have a sensitive side. Often we males repress that because we've been brought up with the idea that real men don't cry, etc. It's time for us to get in touch with out sensitive side, I say. Without a loving, empathic side, God just appears cold, and I can out no faith in a cold-fish God.

 

[Shadowprophet]

God is not extra terrestrial no, because that inclines something of the land one walks upon.. God formed the earth

Actually Extraterrestrial means, to be alive and not born of this planet.. Of which God is both of those things.

 

[Shadowprophet]

It's true,Shadowprophet, that the Bible describes God as male. However, it was males who wrote the Bible, also males coming from a warrior culture. Traditionally, women have been stereotyped as being the emotional one, the passive, empathic, receptive ones. Truth is, however, males also have a sensitive side. Often we males repress that because we've been brought up with the idea that real men don't cry, etc. It's time for us to get in touch with out sensitive side, I say. Without a loving, empathic side, God just appears cold, and I can out no faith in a cold-fish God.

Well see this is an area, That I have questions about.. I was raised christian.. And not one person here has comments on how it says in the bible that God favors man,, And views women as being deceptive by nature... Sigh.. And I didn't want to be that guy.. because in my heart I don't entirely agree.. But I am no one worthy to question the Lord.. There was a time,, when some church of Christ men, came to my home.. my wife was way more into the whole thing then I was,, When it came time to pray.. I said,, Let her do it,, And the pastor would not allow her to lead the prayer. I have things I disagree with,, But what can I do,,,,

 

[keltoi]

Jonny are you able to write more than 1 or 2 sentences into a post? The way it looks now is you're trying to break a post record by posting alot of 1 liners.

 

[Hoghead1]

So you like Rod Sterling, too. I'm an old geezer and I watched the show when it first came on TV. Well, 8 minutes would pass before we saw anything. I don't know how long we would be suspended in space with no sun. Not long, I imagine. But for a very short time, we didn't need the sun's gravity to hold us up. Also, I and others embrace the notion that instantaneous communication across the universe is possible. At least it is possible in certain metaphysical systems. Also there appears to be some evidence from modern physics. See Stapp-Bell. Quantum entanglement, they call it.

 

[keltoi]

the thing I learned from church all Christian churches, it doesn't matter what they do, if you come together to the church, but if you look up and you see God within, those places were sanctified by God to help Him hear your words of prayers..

God doesn't need buildings to help him hear anything.

 

[Shadowprophet]

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For this I would like to say a few things,, how is a graven image defined firstly? And that looks like a depiction of father time..

Why would a perfect deity, who does never die, look like that.. the fact that we age at all is a punishment put upon us because of original sin,, Why would God look like this old man? To me,, it makes no sense that God would curse himself with age and to look like that..

Look at that face.. Is that perfection?? Is God perfection?? Think about this...

 

[keltoi]

What is that supposed to be^^^^^^^^^

 

[Hoghead1]

The biblical world viewed women as grossly inferior to men. Paul said women should shut up in church, for example. Even is made the temptress of Adam. God is described as exclusively male, due to the fact males wrote Scripture. Women were not allowed to become priests in ancient Hebrew society. Your daughters were just so much property that you could sell into slavery if you wanted, (Exod. 21) or just hand over to hony men to do what they liked with them, as per Lot in Sodom. There is also an extra-canonical work "Paul and the Acts of Teekel," where he is extremely nasty with a woman named Teekel because she is winning over so many women. He refused to baptize her, even after she performed big miracles. She later became a saint in Eastern Orthodoxy.

 

[Shadowprophet]

The biblical world viewed women as grossly inferior to men. Paul said women should shut up in church, for example. Even is made the temptress of Adam. God is described as exclusively male, due to the fact males wrote Scripture. Women were not allowed to become priests in ancient Hebrew society. Your daughters were just so much property that you could sell into slavery if you wanted, (Exod. 21) or just hand over to hony men to do what they liked with them, as per Lot in Sodom. There is also an extra-canonical work "Paul and the Acts of Teekel," where he is extremely nasty with a woman named Teekel because she is winning over so many women. He refused to baptize her, even after she performed big miracles. She later became a saint in Eastern Orthodoxy.

I don't want anyone to misunderstand where I am coming from,, In my life. the times I have felt true love. It was for Gods beautiful creation woman, a creation so mysterious and beautiful that even the angels fell from heaven just to be with them.. I believe woman are a gift to be treated with love and respect.. And I believe they should have authority in Church and in relationships,,,

So... This is one part of the old scriptures that I don't entirely understand.... because woman are beautiful.. and they are a treasure... Why would anyone want to treat them as if they are lesser?? I am at a lack of understanding.. And, lord forgive me... I just don't understand....

 

[Hoghead1]

The classical or treaditional picture , Johnny, of God as he is in his won nature came largely from Hellenic philosophy, not Scripture. The reason is that the Bible is not a book of metaphysics, tells us very little about how God is built. So the early fathers looked to certain predominant schools of Hellenic philosophy, which emphasized that the world of temporal-material world was evil and a big illusion, The truly divine, the "really real," was a wholly immaterial simple immutable realm. The Greeks enshrined the immune and the immutable, and so did the church. Hence, God was described as void of body, parts, passions, compassion, without even the shadow of movement, immutable, simple, etc. One problem is that this model does not fit with the biblical model of God, which is highly anthropomorphic, attributing both emotion and also change to God, in about 100 passages, e.g., Hosea 11:9. The other problem is that it provides a very insensitive, unresponsive God. If God can't change, if nothing can make any real difference in God, then saint or sinner it's all the same to God, who remains blissfully indifferent. If God is a living personality, then God is a synthesis bob both consistency and change. Immutable in some aspects, but mutable in others.

 

[keltoi]

Jonny you are aware the Bible does say not to make images of things in Heaven aren't you?

 

[Hoghead1]

That does snot answer my question. Where are the passages where he appears to be saying that. I've read "On the Origin" and I don't find anything like that. Also, he presents very solid evidence in "On the origin." IN addition, Darwin has a colleague, AR Wallace, to back him up. Wallace actually came up with the notion of survival of the fittest. Wallace lived for year sin jungles, carefully observing nature, gathering up zillions of specimens. Actually, he discovered 5000 new species. The natural theology of the day said that a species cannot change. However, Wallace came up with all sorts of insect specimens that showed a species can undergo change. He also noted that there is no hard-and-fast dividing line between where one species ends and another begins. Makes sense. We are 95 percent ape. Wallace wrote all kinds of books. I am sure you can find an online course that will show you some to the specimens he examined.

 

[keltoi]

That does snot answer my question.

Who are you talking to?