Why didn't the Right try to even the chances in the Entertainment culture war a bit?

[PeachyKeane]

We got leading men:
Mel Gibson, Clin Eastwood, Bruce Willis, John Voight,m The Rock...

All your progressive press raved about the movies of Carig S Zahler and is probably one the most cretively free new filmmakers.

Every Clint Eastwood movie is a great investment...

American Sniper is made kmore money in the US than the Avengers...

I don't trust your experience.

That doesn't smell right. Let's check.

American Sniper made about $350M domestically.

Marvel's the Avengers made $623M domestically.

Maybe you ought not trust your own experience.

 

[Not David]

Experience.

Got any evidence to the contrary?

I'm sure you haven't heard the "Ben Shapiro reckts Libtards" memes. However, I will say it is nothing compared with Netflix and Hollywood

 

[Not David]

And how are those "conservative" movies?

American Sniper is an anti-war movie, I doubt that's very conservative, is it?

The discussion isn't about movies where some conservatives are working, it's about movies with a conservative theme, because your beef seems to be with movies showing "progressive values".

Not every conservative is a Neocon.

 

[Not David]

Is this sarcasm?

No, it is a fact.

 

[Not David]

Conservatives will never win the entertainment culture war.

Look at their products:

Versus the liberals:

And conservatives are the ones financing these "evil liberals," since they're also seeing their movies.

True, leftists promote their message in a cautious way.

 

[SummerMadness]

That doesn't smell right. Let's check.

In the US American Sniper made about $350M domestically.

Marvel's the Avengers made $623M domestically.

Maybe you ought not trust your own experience.

Yeah, I trust box office statistics more than feelings.

 

[PeachyKeane]

No, it is a fact.

Is it? Howso?

I indulge in entertainment that doesn't come from Hollywood.

 

[Not David]

Is it? Howso?

I indulge in entertainment that doesn't come from Hollywood.

Tell me who competes against them

 

[SummerMadness]

True, leftists promote their message in a cautious way.

"Leftist movies" are entertaining, conservative movies are not. There isn't much else to it. Everyone will watch an Incredibles over a horrible Kirk Cameron Left Behind film.

 

[Nithavela]

I'm sure you haven't heard the "Ben Shapiro reckts Libtards" memes. However, I will say it is nothing compared with Netflix and Hollywood

You're right, I haven't. It sounds charming.

 

[Sjatov's Avenging Angel]

"Leftist movies" are entertaining, conservative movies are not. There isn't much else to it. Everyone will watch an Incredibles over a horrible Kirk Cameron Left Behind film.

From the current left or the left of the past?

What kind of values would you like to see displayed more in movies to diversify?

Let's see, pro gun, un pc,

That's not reflective of how movies are actually made.

So no one ever thinks of it? They just ignore copyright law?

Maybe they were concentrating on jobs, NAFTA, North Korea. Et al

I fail to see why they should have ignored it...

Why pick on the least powerful and worst paid? Is that really your "conservative values" allowing desperate, out of work people to be exploited?

As far as I know, the only thing stopping "allowing" extras from "working for free" is the union, the Screen Actors Guild. If producers want to hire their friends, family, dependents and people off the street to "work for free", they can, but there is no assurance that the same people will reliably show up, looking the same, day after day.

Now there's a great conservative value - union busting to exploit the working poor.

How big do you think this industry woudl be?

Last time i checked you can be selective about who volunteers...

Experience.

I already adressed this with a previous poster...

Conservatives will never win the entertainment culture war.

Look at their products:

Versus the liberals:

And conservatives are the ones financing these "evil liberals," since they're also seeing their movies.

I am pretty sure progs also watched some not prog movies...

That doesn't smell right. Let's check.

American Sniper made about $350M domestically.

Marvel's the Avengers made $623M domestically.

Maybe you ought not trust your own experience.

My bad misremebred. Feel like talking about the rest of it?

I'm sure you haven't heard the "Ben Shapiro reckts Libtards" memes. However, I will say it is nothing compared with Netflix and Hollywood

Netflix is willing at least put out unwoke stuff. I put them in the secretly open minded category. like i said i don't think this ride can be spearheaded by social conservatives...

But they could benefit.

Yeah, I trust box office statistics more than feelings.

What does your post have to do with the Op or most of the discussion?

Tell me who competes against them

By hollywood you mean? Some are just DTV companies who have one office there...

 

[grasping the after wind]

W

If actual rich people would put real money to decrease the dominance of the Progressives i fail to see why it could not succeed.

A large percentage of the rich people are Progressives.

 

[Nithavela]

Let's see, pro gun, un pc

A movie with guns?

You know, you might just be onto something. I don't think that has been done before.

 

[Sjatov's Avenging Angel]

A movie with guns?

You know, you might just be onto something. I don't think that has been done before.

I menat it in the American sense...

A large percentage of the rich people are Progressives.

I don't think most of these people truly believe in anything...

 

[Nithavela]

I menat it in the American sense...

I don't follow.

 

[SummerMadness]

I am pretty sure progs also watched some not prog movies...

What makes these conservative movies? What makes them "ideologically different"?

 

[Sjatov's Avenging Angel]

What makes these conservative movies? What makes them "ideologically different"?

Look at what National Review wrote about Brawl for example.

 

[SummerMadness]

Look at what National Review wrote about Brawl for example.

You can just say it right here, I'm not going to read National Review.

 

[grasping the after wind]

I menat it in the American sense...



I don't think most of these people truly believe in anything...

In my experience, many Progressives do believe in at least one thing. They believe in their personal moral and intellectual superiority.

 

[Nithavela]

What makes these conservative movies? What makes them "ideologically different"?

I think that OPs problem is that he sees all those movies doing well while doing such wild things as having lgbtq characters or strong female leads and he's mad that he doesn't feel invited to the party.

I don't think OP actually knows what he wants, he just knows what he doesn't want and thus desires less of that, but can offer no real alternative or contrast.