Why did God create humans?

[tvdog12345]

And why does he allow us to continue to exist? I don't really want an answer. I just want to say that I hurt him every day, and saying I will try to do it less is nothing. It makes up for nothing.

And I am not immodest when I say that I am not the worst. But He never gives up. Why? If a dog treated you like we treat God, you would have it put to sleep.

There are men in prison who are on God's list. Someone now is committing a murder - he is on the list too. They are full of fury because they believe God has forgotten them, and He has not! He is only waiting for them to come home to Him. I pray He doesn't forget to remind them that He remembers them. I know how happy I was when He told me He remembered me.

Why don't Christians tell the world of God's love? Never mind, I haven't done it either. God hates sin, but He loves His people - all of them.

He won't let me come home to Him until I have done His work for me, but I don't know what it is. I hope I find out soon. I hate this place so much. I don't want to get into Heaven if I don't deserve it, but maybe there is a place where I can hear the angels sing, somewhere outside the gates, in the dark. Where I don't have to hear the demons.

I don't think He understands how bad it is down here. (Is there a verse in the Bible where it actually says God is omniscient?) Maybe He knows but doesn't understand. To Him, 70 years is an eyeblink. I congratulate those who die early - they graduate to eternal glory, early. Maybe His pain is even greater than ours.

Finally, I want to thank God for the birds He sent me last winter. And the last bird that came to say "goodbye." We both knew he would not be back the next year, he just wanted to be remembered. I thank Him also for more important things that I will not mention. I thank Him for the mountains and the birds flying in the thermals of the mountains. But I can't go on forever. The more I understand, the worse it gets. I understand that sin never goes away, that those who rule this world love Satan only less than themselves, and real love has lost all power because nobody knows what it means any more.

I don't really want an answer, just to say something. There is no way to say everything. I wish I could say I love you and it not sound like a lie. But I can't do that, and you wouldn't want me to if I could.

 

[Fulltruthministry]

And why does he allow us to continue to exist? I don't really want an answer. I just want to say that I hurt him every day, and saying I will try to do it less is nothing. It makes up for nothing.

And I am not immodest when I say that I am not the worst. But He never gives up. Why? If a dog treated you like we treat God, you would have it put to sleep.

There are men in prison who are on God's list. Someone now is committing a murder - he is on the list too. They are full of fury because they believe God has forgotten them, and He has not! He is only waiting for them to come home to Him. I pray He doesn't forget to remind them that He remembers them. I know how happy I was when He told me He remembered me.

Why don't Christians tell the world of God's love? Never mind, I haven't done it either. God hates sin, but He loves His people - all of them.

He won't let me come home to Him until I have done His work for me, but I don't know what it is. I hope I find out soon. I hate this place so much. I don't want to get into Heaven if I don't deserve it, but maybe there is a place where I can hear the angels sing, somewhere outside the gates, in the dark. Where I don't have to hear the demons.

I don't think He understands how bad it is down here. (Is there a verse in the Bible where it actually says God is omniscient?) Maybe He knows but doesn't understand. To Him, 70 years is an eyeblink. I congratulate those who die early - they graduate to eternal glory, early. Maybe His pain is even greater than ours.

Finally, I want to thank God for the birds He sent me last winter. And the last bird that came to say "goodbye." We both knew he would not be back the next year, he just wanted to be remembered. I thank Him also for more important things that I will not mention. I thank Him for the mountains and the birds flying in the thermals of the mountains. But I can't go on forever. The more I understand, the worse it gets. I understand that sin never goes away, that those who rule this world love Satan only less than themselves, and real love has lost all power because nobody knows what it means any more.

I don't really want an answer, just to say something. There is no way to say everything. I wish I could say I love you and it not sound like a lie. But I can't do that, and you wouldn't want me to if I could.

You post was very moving:
We dont love eachother for who we are; we love eachother because of how much God loves us:
Your heart is pure and true: The echoes of truth sounds an everlasting sound in your words; LOVE: LOVE LOVE

I hear it and its wonderful; God hears it too:
He also hears how much you love humanity: And we cry tears in part; yet one day we will truly see that Gods WAY" is BEST

I guess God does know how much we are huring: Being that He sent His Son to suffer so much:
But I cant compare my sufferings with how Jesus lived:
He didnt care about the things that makes the world worry;
and yet we cry out to God because of the things we worry about:
And its ok for me; as long as i understand that in the end Gods Will shall be done in my life:
And no matter what that will is; its up to me to be available; and READY to answer Gods call in the love and the power of His Spirit:

Thats why i am here in this world:
To give God glory; and i would rather be with the Lord; yet who else will give God glory by me except for the Christ in me:

Thus in our words and in our love for God; we even make angels rejoice:
We BARE it; we live on and we desire to be in the world so that we can shed the power of God on those that are in darkness:

And LO:
There is no song i would want to hear in that darkness; nor is there any hope outside of being in the eternal presence of God:

Thus AGAIN: The world turns; because God is patient with us: Even as I may wander why the world is the way it is; God is still patient; baring the suffering still; baring the attitudes of men still; BECAUSE HE LOVES US SO:

Bless you; keep pressing; know that this love that you have is the light that will touch those that need love; Stay blessed

 

[Peripatetic]

Thanks for posting... it is clear that you are hurting, and I'm very sorry for that. You said you didn't want an answer to the question posed in your title, but I'll try to give you one anyway. I believe that God created humans so that He could love us and so that some of us would love Him back. We are like adopted children to him. He gave us free will so that the love could be true and unforced.

Part of that free will equation permits human sin which causes suffering and devastation "down here". That too is important. If our faith was not tested by suffering, it would be weak or nonexistent. One part of God's plan that doesn't make sense to us is why some people seem to suffer more than others. We can't be sure exactly why that happens, but we do know that those who do suffer and stay close to God will be rewarded. And at that time, 70 years will seem like an eye blink to us as well. I sometimes think of the slaves in early America. Many of them had such a strong faith (and wrote some amazing hymns). They had horrible lives on Earth, but how much longer have they now been in paradise where they shed no tears?

 

[tvdog12345]

But I cant compare my sufferings with how Jesus lived:
He didnt care about the things that makes the world worry;
and yet we cry out to God because of the things we worry about:
And its ok for me; as long as i understand that in the end Gods Will shall be done in my life:

Thanks for the reminder. And think not only of His sufferings but of those of the martyrs.

And no matter what that will is; its up to me to be available; and READY to answer Gods call in the love and the power of His Spirit:

That's the whole point, isn't it? Be ready, and pray for discernment to know when and what you are called to do.

Thanks for posting... it is clear that you are hurting, and I'm very sorry for that. You said you didn't want an answer to the question posed in your title, but I'll try to give you one anyway. I believe that God created humans so that He could love us and so that some of us would love Him back. We are like adopted children to him. He gave us free will so that the love could be true and unforced.

Bah, I'm much better now, thanks for your concern. What you say sounds right to me. God always has the angels with Him, but they don't really have a choice. We do.

We can't be sure exactly why that happens, but we do know that those who do suffer and stay close to God will be rewarded. And at that time, 70 years will seem like an eye blink to us as well. I sometimes think of the slaves in early America. Many of them had such a strong faith (and wrote some amazing hymns). They had horrible lives on Earth, but how much longer have they now been in paradise where they shed no tears?

Of course. Well said.

 

[Emmy]

Dear tvdog12345. God is Love, and Love wants always the very best. Love never dies and Love will overcome and conqer all. When Jesus was hanging on the Cross, suffering for us, He cried out: " Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." God made us in His image, and God made us Good. But sadly, when temptation reared its ugly head, Adam and Eve succumbed. We are in this imperfect world now to learn to love God, and to learn to love each other, (our neighbour) as we love ourselves. Selfless Love and sincere care will always be noticed and and grow and grow. There will always be enough Christian brothers and sisters left, to follow God`s loving advice: His Commandments to love and care.
Jesus will give us His Love and Joy, and the Holy Spirit will give us His Love, also. Jesus told us: " asked and ye will receive," then we thank God and share all with each other. God will bless us and God will know that we love Him, because we are following His Commandments to love and care. Love is our great weapon, and Love is very catching. God is Love and God wants Love, freely given and always without conditions tagged on. We are the only representatives which God has in this imperfect world, let us show the word how much we love God and each other. When we stumble or fail, let us ask God to forgive us, and God will forgive us as we will forgive others. I say this with love, tvdog. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

 

[Afire]

I think God created us to be spectators of His infinite glory. More than this though: we are also participants of His infinite glory, and objects of His love. We were to be the apple of His eye. Sin has temporarily spoilt that, but through the death of Christ, the way back is currently open (but not for much longer).

What are you waiting for tvdog12345? Don't let the allure of sin stop you from turning around and running straight into the loving arms of God. The pleasure of sin is hollow, and it will eventually lead you into the pig sty. God doesn't want you sitting forlornly outside the gates, merely listening to the sound of the angels singing. He wants you right by His side, in the thick of it all!

I feel your heart has come close to breaking because you recognise the suffering God has endured for our love. I pray your hardened heart breaks once and for all, and you repent and seek Him in loving obedience. Then you will discover the counterfeit riches of sin cannot even come close to the true treasure that is love from and for God.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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Moving this to Exploring Christianity

 

[Zbigge1031]

I think it's possibly the most brutally honest thing I have ever heard anyone say.

 

[Sarrapin]

I don't think He understands how bad it is down here. (Is there a verse in the Bible where it actually says God is omniscient?) Maybe He knows but doesn't understand.

Oh, I think Jesus understands just how bad it is down here better than any of us could ever comprehend. He took the entire sin of the world upon Himself on the cross. All that guilt, all that shame, all that depravity of the entire human race upon Himself. I know how guilty I feel because of the things that I've done, I can't imagine the degree to which Jesus felt. He was so troubled about going to the cross that He actually sweat drops of blood in the Garden of Gethsemane. It wasn't His death that troubled Him, it was the thought of bearing the sin of the whole world. He knows how tough it is, that is why He came and that is why He sent the Holy Spirit.

St. Paul tells us that "we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin" (Hebrews 4:15). Jesus understands temptation, He understands rejection, He understands loneliness, and He understands injustice. He experienced them all, and to a degree much larger than what we feel and experience.

A verse that speaks of God's omniscience: "for God is greater than our heart and knows all things" (1 John 3:20).