Why are you all talking about sin so much?

[JimBeta]

I wonder, why are you all talking about sin all the time? I read so many posts on the homepage about sin. Is this a sin, is that a sin. Why? Not once do I read a post about love. It seems they are not important enough. No, to know what others believe a sin is, that is more important then love. Because we need to know what God thinks is a sin so we can stop doing it and please God. And then we can convict all that do do it. Does nobody understand you please God by loving another? By having faith? Why do you all talk more about evil then about good? Dont you all know that sin is evil and that love is good? Because God is love.
You all do understand that it is written that we should not concentrate on the fleshly things but on spiritual things. Yet you all talk about the things of the flesh. About sin. And the spiritual things? The love? You all dont seem to care about that much. Why? Is it because the mouth runs over of what the heart is full of? Please, ask to reshape your heart. Ask God to reshape your heart. Not only the flesh needs to die, our heart needs to die too. Stop talking so much about evil things. Sin is evil. Stop concentrating on evil and start concentrating on love.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

You wish to lovingly escort a person through a minefield without ever learning the location of the landmines. We've established why we're motivated, and now we're working on how to do it. You want to drag us back to the first point and keep us there, apparently.

 

[SPF]

I just can't help but chuckle because well... this topic... is another topic that talks about sin!

You're right though that we ought not to focus on sinning less, but on trusting Christ more. The more we trust Christ and that what the things he says about us are true, the more we will by result sin less. The answer to sinning less is not sin management, but learning to love and trust Christ more.

 

[JimBeta]

I just can't help but chuckle because well... this topic... is another topic that talks about sin!

You're right though that we ought not to focus on sinning less, but on trusting Christ more. The more we trust Christ and that what the things he says about us are true, the more we will by result sin less. The answer to sinning less is not sin management, but learning to love and trust Christ more.

Yes it is true but I wanted to adress this. I get so sick about all the: is this a sin posts I see here but on the homepage I never really see people talking about love. I am sorry for me rant.

 

[JackRT]

"It is wonderful how much time good people spend fighting the devil. If they would only expend the same amount of energy loving their fellow men, the devil would die in his own tracks of ennui." --- Helen Keller

 

[JimBeta]

You wish to lovingly escort a person through a minefield without ever learning the location of the landmines. We've established why we're motivated, and now we're working on how to do it. You want to drag us back to the first point and keep us there, apparently.

I want you all to stop focussing on the fleshly things and to focus on the spiritual things

 

[JimBeta]

I want you all to ask God to reshape your heart so you will be talking more about love then about sin. That is what I want.

 

[JimBeta]

Romans 8:5 (KJV)
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

The thing of the flesh is sin. The thing of the Spirit is love.

 

[Ken Rank]

I wonder, why are you all talking about sin all the time? I read so many posts on the homepage about sin. Is this a sin, is that a sin. Why? Not once do I read a post about love. It seems they are not important enough. No, to know what others believe a sin is, that is more important then love. Because we need to know what God thinks is a sin so we can stop doing it and please God. And then we can convict all that do do it. Does nobody understand you please God by loving another? By having faith? Why do you all talk more about evil then about good? Dont you all know that sin is evil and that love is good? Because God is love.
You all do understand that it is written that we should not concentrate on the fleshly things but on spiritual things. Yet you all talk about the things of the flesh. About sin. And the spiritual things? The love? You all dont seem to care about that much. Why? Is it because the mouth runs over of what the heart is full of? Please, ask to reshape your heart. Ask God to reshape your heart. Not only the flesh needs to die, our heart needs to die too. Stop talking so much about evil things. Sin is evil. Stop concentrating on evil and start concentrating on love.

Love doesn't abrogate the need to walk a righteous walk. We love God, and because we love Him we seek to please Him and we do that by avoiding those things He desires us to avoid. If something is a sin, it stands against His character and taking part in it would profane His character. Thus, we help each other understand what is and is not sin so as to walk properly, in love, before our Lord.

 

[JimBeta]

No you please God by your faith and loving others. God dies for us people. He loves us. All many of you do is only looking at God when God looked at us. You please God by having faith not by talking about sin the whole time. Sin is evil. If you think you please God by talking about evil the whole time then I dont think you understand that God is not sin but that God is love. But I guess its normal many of you do not understand me. I understand you all good enough, like I said, you all think you please God by doing this. Well I have my serious doubts about that.

 

[Ken Rank]

No you please God by your faith and loving others. God dies for us people. He loves us. All many of you do is only looking at God when God looked at us. You please God by having faith not by talking about sin the whole time. Sin is evil. If you think you please God by talking about evil the whole time then I dont think you understand that God is not sin but that God is love. But I guess its normal many of you do not understand me. I understand you all good enough, like I said, you all think you please God by doing this. Well I have my serious doubts about that.

Faith comes by hearing the word of God and is dead without works. If you think that God took the form of man and died for all who love Him to live but that you can now live any way you want... then that is a false gospel. Do you think a child of God can steal? Do you think a male child of God can lay with another male as he would a woman? Do you think a child of God can murder? Can serve other gods? Can make idols? No?.... and those things are sin!

Even messiah said of those who came in faith to him, "Go and sin no more!" The NT is FULL of quotes telling us to avoid sin. Removing sin from the NT, as you seem geared toward doing, is not just taking from the word of God, it is changing the gospel into a false one.

I am sure you are not meaning to do that... so you should go back and revisit how you have said some things.

Peace.
Ken

 

[JimBeta]

The works we need to do are works of the Spirit. Of love.

 

[fat wee robin]

Yes it is true but I wanted to adress this. I get so sick about all the: is this a sin posts I see here but on the homepage I never really see people talking about love. I am sorry for me rant.

Well maybe you could start by defining what you mean by Love .

You wrote a post supporting homosexuality ,but have you ever thought that maybe they are already judged ,because of their hearts ,which turn away from how God wishes us to love one another in purity ? That they are not victims ,but perpetrators .

 

[Ken Rank]

The works we need to do are works of the Spirit. Of love.

Just read the book. If it says that we are not to sin anymore, that sinners are not part of the kingdom... then we are to love and not sin. They don't contradict... it's just God's will that we do both, love and not sin.

You didn't answer... do you think we can murder? Can a man lay with a man as he would a woman? Can we make idols and serve other gods? If you say "No" then you are agreeing, we are not to sin because these actions I mentioned (and others I didn't) are sin.

 

[JimBeta]

Well maybe you could start by defining what you mean by Love .

You wrote a post supporting homosexuality ,but have you ever thought that maybe they are already judged ,because of their hearts ,which turn away from how God wishes us to love one another in purity ? That they are not victims ,but perpetrators .

Jesus said to love our enemies because God also loves his enemies

 

[JimBeta]

1 Cor 13
The Greatest Gift
1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
4Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

 

[Ken Rank]

1 Cor 13
The Greatest Gift
1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
4Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Respectfully, I think you are defining love according to the modern very emotional definition we use. To a first century Jew, love was purely something revealed in your actions. That is why we see this...

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

Shalom.
Ken

 

[Ken Rank]

I am sorry that you find sin more important then to love others. I wish you a great time with that reasoning.

You say we need to love... I AGREE! But we love as God says to love, not as our culture defines love!

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

The love of God is seen in our obedience... that is Scripture. If you don't appreciate that, your problem is with the bible, not me.

Be well.

 

[JimBeta]

Respectfully, I think you are defining love according to the modern very emotional definition we use. To a first century Jew, love was purely something revealed in your actions. That is why we see this...

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

Shalom.
Ken

1 Cor 13
The Greatest Gift
1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
4Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

4Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never fails.

That is what love is. I do not see anything about pointing to what a sin is all the time and never speaking about love. I do see that love does not think evil and sin is evil. So if you always talk about sin then that is not love.

 

[JimBeta]

You say we need to love... I AGREE! But we love as God says to love, not as our culture defines love!

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

The love of God is seen in our obedience... that is Scripture. If you don't appreciate that, your problem is with the bible, not me.

Be well.

DO you actually know what the commandments are? Do you know what the work is we need to do?