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Why are we accountable if we did not ask to be exist?

Discussion in 'Struggles by Non-Christians' started by dc87, May 17, 2017.

  1. dc87

    dc87 Member

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    This is a frustration of mine. I'm not necessarily a non believer. But this is a topic anyone could ask so I ask it here.

    I did not ask to be born. Why does God hold me accountable for anything?

    He created me, gave me a spirit im supposed to make sure conforms to his destinity - otherwise im doomed. gee.... thanks :/ so gracious of You. Sometimes im like... can I go back to not existing.... no? k... thanks for nothing! (i say that sarcastically today but not always)

    What am I not realizing?
     
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    Fair question.

    You'll get a lot of different answers about just how God "holds you accountable." There are Christians who believe in a form of universal reconciliation. You could hear more about this on the subforums for specific faiths.
     
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  3. Mountainmanbob

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    Because everything is up to God and there are no free rides.
    Trust in Christ or suffer the circumstances.
    It's very simple but still, most want to question the Almighty One.

    It's a wide road to the Hot Place.

    M-Bob
     
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  4. dc87

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    yes trust in Christ or else! pay taxes or else! conform to the reikt or else! heil hilter! what?! lol!
     
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    I actually wonder the same, especially considering how God said he'd punish people's descendants for something the parents did. How's that fair or just in any way?
     
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    Who told you that life was going to be easy and you can do whatever you want?

    Got news for you -- they lied.

    M-Bob
     
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  7. archer75

    archer75 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I know, it sounds that way.
    Your thingy says "non-denom," but you said you're "not necessarily a non-believer." Would you say a little more about the teachings of whatever church or churches you've been associated with so we can know more about where you're coming from?
     
  8. chriscomplex

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    Nothing, you're using your brain as you should.
     
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  9. dc87

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    ... who asked you if you want to be born or not? .... and im not necessarily complaining about this life - its the next.

    i believe in God, struggle with Jesus and His reality. been through methodist, baptist, presbyterians, calvinists, and then anabaptist doctrines and now im done w organized "church" as we call it. non of them answered this question specifically. im in my late 20s.
     
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    The argument " I did not ask to be born" is a non-starter right there.
    You have to deal with reality, you are born, whether you "asked" to be or not is meaningless.
    You were created, you are here. Thus, having being, you are responsible for your actions. There are certain behaviors which are evil no matter what opinions or points of view you may have. If you pursue evil and continue in it, God (and everyone else) has a right to find fault with your bad behavior.
     
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    Complete isolation, like what in a padded cell room? Or hell? Don't sugar coat what you mean just because you might deter them.
     
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    Children don't ask to be born. Should they not be accountable to their parents?
     
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    .... everyday...

    ..... o id love to have a relationship with someone who created the universe. sadly its not nearly that easy. and the Guy who came and died for us and suffered the eternal penalty... well.... He seems almost impossible to reach.
     
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    I would gladly spend all of eternity trying to teach my boy to change his ways. My Father in heaven apparently will not.
     
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    Still a horrible scenario, but I am sure the bible paints a clearer picture of separation than you gave. I understand though about hell, and I had to think the same thing. But that was just to avoid the scarceness of it all.
     
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  20. bettercallpaul

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    I used to say that to my parents when I was a teenager. :)
    To be honest now I am ashamed of saying such a thing.
    My parents didn't ask to be born either and they never complained about their parents or God to me ever.
    I just think its the height of arrogance to say such a thing now. (sorry but I do have some empathy for you) And isn't it the spoilt first world teenagers, who tend to say it? I mean, would Christians in poor countries say it?
    Can you imagine if God spoke to us like this before our lives started?
    "Now Paul, this is what your life is going to be like. You grow up in a nice first world working class family, not rich but very loving. You will suffer a lot of anxiety and self-doubt throughout your life. Its up to you if you want to make the most of it. Do you want it or not? I've got a spare life as a tortured Chrstian in a Muslim dominated country but you probably wouldn't like that , would you?"
     
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