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Why are Christians so Judgmental

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I believe this verse explains much as to how God wants us to live:

Micah 6:8

He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

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Mic 6:8
He has told you, mortal one, what is good;
And what does the LORD require of you
But to do justice, to love [fn]kindness,
And to walk [fn]humbly with your God?

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I used this verse when we buried my father, as it described him. He was a man that was just, loved mercy, and walked humbly with God.
Because he practiced his faith, his long time pastor said in his part of the funeral that in all the years of his service, my father is the only person he knew that no one complained about or made snide comments about, and he was loved.
 
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First observation.
You are saying negative things about people who are trying to be good.
Anyways.
In many cases, people are not being judgemental. They are simply making obvious observations. If I see someone run into a store, grab a rack of expensive clothes, and run out of the store with a security guard in pursuit, am I allowed to state a fact: "That guy just stole a lot of stuff!" That is not being judgmental; it is just saying what I saw happen. So when does it cross the line into being "judgmental." As with the case of the woman caught in adultery, the religious people only became judgmental when they picked up rocks to stone her. Even then, Jesus did not rebuke them for preparing to stone her... the law of Moses allowed for that! He rebuked them for judging her and preparing to stone her while they were guilty of their own sins. In other words, "let those who have no sin cast the first stone." That is what they missed. They were told not to stone people unless they were ready also to be stoned for their own sins. That would include everyone, including me, you, and everyone else.
So what is a loving person to do? If I see you heading down a foggy road that ends with you driving off a collapsed bridge, can I point that out to you as you drive by on your way to disaster? Am I being "judgmental" for acting in love and trying to save your life? "Stop, stop, stop... don't go that way.. you are going down a road that leads to your own demise!" I imagine the driver yelling back at me, "Mind your own business and stop judging me! This does not affect you, and I have the right to do what I want!" Well, yes, you do. But do not accuse me of being unloving and judgmental as you plunge to your doom. The same is true for Christians who see the path the sinner is on and try to warn them. Telling a person the danger they are in is sometimes interpreted by the hearer as "judging" them. This is an error on their part, and they are misinterpreting the intent of the Christian. In other words, they are guilty of the very thing. So what will I say to the diver who plunged off the bridge? Will he be angry at me for trying to warn him? What if I failed to warn him, and as a result, he plunged to his doom? What would he say then? He could accuse me of being unloving because I did not warn him. What if I had a friend who rebuked me as I warned the driver about the danger he was in? "Leave that driver alone... love him, accept him and the path he has chosen!" Perhaps after the driver plunged, he would ask my friend why he did not warn him. Perhaps my friend would reply, "Oh, but I loved you and accepted you and the path you were on!" Is that the truth? Did he really love him? No, he did not.
Another good point made.

On here someone was talking about the dark music they listen to and the negative and dark things that were happening to them, then they posted an example and i felt all this dark energy and told them to throw it away. He then seemed to accuse me of judging him and his music.

What? What? What?

I felt like i walked into a set up to accuse Christians of being judgemental. I mean he even said it was dark and the dark things that happened to him.

It was my discernment that, by what i discerned and what he said it wasn't good for him and I'm sticking with that.

Being judgemental is a matter of the heart, like we shouldn't look down on another in a superior way
 
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First observation.
You are saying negative things about people who are trying to be good.
Anyways.
In many cases, people are not being judgemental. They are simply making obvious observations. If I see someone run into a store, grab a rack of expensive clothes, and run out of the store with a security guard in pursuit, am I allowed to state a fact: "That guy just stole a lot of stuff!" That is not being judgmental; it is just saying what I saw happen. So when does it cross the line into being "judgmental." As with the case of the woman caught in adultery, the religious people only became judgmental when they picked up rocks to stone her. Even then, Jesus did not rebuke them for preparing to stone her... the law of Moses allowed for that! He rebuked them for judging her and preparing to stone her while they were guilty of their own sins. In other words, "let those who have no sin cast the first stone." That is what they missed. They were told not to stone people unless they were ready also to be stoned for their own sins. That would include everyone, including me, you, and everyone else.
So what is a loving person to do? If I see you heading down a foggy road that ends with you driving off a collapsed bridge, can I point that out to you as you drive by on your way to disaster? Am I being "judgmental" for acting in love and trying to save your life? "Stop, stop, stop... don't go that way.. you are going down a road that leads to your own demise!" I imagine the driver yelling back at me, "Mind your own business and stop judging me! This does not affect you, and I have the right to do what I want!" Well, yes, you do. But do not accuse me of being unloving and judgmental as you plunge to your doom. The same is true for Christians who see the path the sinner is on and try to warn them. Telling a person the danger they are in is sometimes interpreted by the hearer as "judging" them. This is an error on their part, and they are misinterpreting the intent of the Christian. In other words, they are guilty of the very thing. So what will I say to the diver who plunged off the bridge? Will he be angry at me for trying to warn him? What if I failed to warn him, and as a result, he plunged to his doom? What would he say then? He could accuse me of being unloving because I did not warn him. What if I had a friend who rebuked me as I warned the driver about the danger he was in? "Leave that driver alone... love him, accept him and the path he has chosen!" Perhaps after the driver plunged, he would ask my friend why he did not warn him. Perhaps my friend would reply, "Oh, but I loved you and accepted you and the path you were on!" Is that the truth? Did he really love him? No, he did not.
Another good point. On here someone was talking about the dark music they listen to andthe negative and dark things that was happening to them, then they posted an example and i felt all this dark energy and told them to throw it away. He then seemed to accuse me of judging him and his music.

What? What? What?

I felt like i walked into a set up to accuse Christians of being judgemental. I mean he even said it was dark and the dark things that happened to him.

It was my discernment that, by what i discerned and what he said it wasn't good for him and I'm sticking with that.

Being judgemental is a matter of the heart, like we shouldn't look down on another in superior
To g

Another good point made.

On here someone was talking about the dark music they listen to and the negative and dark things that were happening to them, then they posted an example and i felt all this dark energy and told them to throw it away. He then seemed to accuse me of judging him and his music.

What? What? What?

I felt like i walked into a set up to accuse Christians of being judgemental. I mean he even said it was dark and the dark things that happened to him.

It was my discernment that, by what i discerned and what he said it wasn't good for him and I'm sticking with that.

Being judgemental is a matter of the heart, like we shouldn't look down on another in a superior way
Come to think of it, i think i even called it trash, but i really felt it was and i sure wasn't trying to offend him. I mean he even seemed to be coming to that conclusion. I know in my heart i was just trying to help him get better and if i thought he was coming to a different conclusion i may have been more tactful about it.

Oh, who am i kidding. It was trash, and God knows i only had good intentions.
 
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First observation.
You are saying negative things about people who are trying to be good.
Anyways.
In many cases, people are not being judgemental. They are simply making obvious observations. If I see someone run into a store, grab a rack of expensive clothes, and run out of the store with a security guard in pursuit, am I allowed to state a fact: "That guy just stole a lot of stuff!" That is not being judgmental; it is just saying what I saw happen. So when does it cross the line into being "judgmental." As with the case of the woman caught in adultery, the religious people only became judgmental when they picked up rocks to stone her. Even then, Jesus did not rebuke them for preparing to stone her... the law of Moses allowed for that! He rebuked them for judging her and preparing to stone her while they were guilty of their own sins. In other words, "let those who have no sin cast the first stone." That is what they missed. They were told not to stone people unless they were ready also to be stoned for their own sins. That would include everyone, including me, you, and everyone else.
So what is a loving person to do? If I see you heading down a foggy road that ends with you driving off a collapsed bridge, can I point that out to you as you drive by on your way to disaster? Am I being "judgmental" for acting in love and trying to save your life? "Stop, stop, stop... don't go that way.. you are going down a road that leads to your own demise!" I imagine the driver yelling back at me, "Mind your own business and stop judging me! This does not affect you, and I have the right to do what I want!" Well, yes, you do. But do not accuse me of being unloving and judgmental as you plunge to your doom. The same is true for Christians who see the path the sinner is on and try to warn them. Telling a person the danger they are in is sometimes interpreted by the hearer as "judging" them. This is an error on their part, and they are misinterpreting the intent of the Christian. In other words, they are guilty of the very thing. So what will I say to the diver who plunged off the bridge? Will he be angry at me for trying to warn him? What if I failed to warn him, and as a result, he plunged to his doom? What would he say then? He could accuse me of being unloving because I did not warn him. What if I had a friend who rebuked me as I warned the driver about the danger he was in? "Leave that driver alone... love him, accept him and the path he has chosen!" Perhaps after the driver plunged, he would ask my friend why he did not warn him. Perhaps my friend would reply, "Oh, but I loved you and accepted you and the path you were on!" Is that the truth? Did he really love him? No, he did not.
Another good point. On here someone was talking about the dark music they listen to andthe negative and dark things that was happening to them, then they posted an example and i felt all this dark energy and told them to throw it away. He then seemed to accuse me of judging him and his music.

What? What? What?

I felt like i walked into a set up to accuse Christians of being judgemental. I mean he even said it was dark and the dark things that happened to him.

It was my discernment that, by what i discerned and what he said it wasn't good for him and I'm sticking with that.

Being judgemental is a matter of the heart, like we shouldn't look down on another in superior
Another good point made.

On here someone was talking about the dark music they listen to and the negative and dark things that were happening to them, then they posted an example and i felt all this dark energy and told them to throw it away. He then seemed to accuse me of judging him and his music.

What? What? What?

I felt like i walked into a set up to accuse Christians of being judgemental. I mean he even said it was dark and the dark things that happened to him.

It was my discernment that, by what i discerned and what he said it wasn't good for him and I'm sticking with that.

Being judgemental is a matter of the heart, like we shouldn't look down on another in a superior way
Come to think of it, i think i even called it trash, but i really felt it was and i sure wasn't trying to offend him. I mean he even seemed to be coming to that conclusion. I know in my heart i was just trying to help him get better and if i thought he was coming to a different conclusion i may have been more tactful about it.

Oh, who am i kidding. It was trash, and God knows i only had good intentions.
 
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A denominational approach to Christianity tends to foster a "right / wrong" approach that fosters conflict. This can be seen with the Corinthians.

1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1Co 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1Co 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

Few organizational systems prioritize Christian maturity (Christ-likeness). They tend towards a collectivist approach that places an emphasis on processing people through sermons, classes, events, and programs like components on a conveyor belt.
 
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A denominational approach to Christianity tends to foster a "right / wrong" approach that fosters conflict. This can be seen with the Corinthians.

1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1Co 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1Co 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

Few organizational systems prioritize Christian maturity (Christ-likeness). They tend towards a collectivist approach that places an emphasis on processing people through sermons, classes, events, and programs like components on a conveyor belt.
Amen. What i see and sense God is showing me is how we are still partaking of the knowledge of good and evil and can call good evil, and evil good, but the bigger issue is we are being our own gods. Devil is still using same tricks, promising we will be like the most high apart from Him.

Being like the most high, holy as he is holy, is already our destiny, but not apart from Him. We are to be totally dependant on Him.

Now Jesus did tell us we will know by their fruit. Good and evil exist in the heart. We know if we feel hatred for another, bitterness, unforgiveness, these are not part of the life of God. So, we can know when we are off and take time with the Lord to correct that, by confessing and asking Him to cleanse us and set our sights on Him.

Yet often we judge many matters by the knowledge of good and evil and play god.
 
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I quit being a Christian AGAIN. Why do Christians and religious people always have something negative to say about someone when they are trying to be good, then they talk about global history, then say be reborn again and don’t think on the past. Like sheesh what is it??
If you stopped being a Christian because of what Christians say or do, then you never had faith in Jesus to begin with. Christians are sinful too, so focus on what Jesus and the Apostles said, not what Christians do.
 
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I quit being a Christian AGAIN.
Love does not have us giving up on people who are wrong.

"Love suffers long and is kind" > in 1 Corinthians 13:4.

"Love never fails" > in 1 Corinthians 13:8.

Love "bears all things" and "hopes all things" > in 1 Corinthians 13:7

So, if you were a Christian, you did not give up on wrong people. You did not judge them and condemn them as having no hope to get better, because love "hopes all things". We have hope for any person.

Why do Christians and religious people always have something negative to say about someone when they are trying to be good, then they talk about global history, then say be reborn again and don’t think on the past. Like sheesh what is it??
I do not know the ones you are talking about, but we do need to know right from wrong, and we do need to judge between right and wrong. Or else, we can join with people who are doing what is wrong. So, there is judging that we have to do.

So, it depends on what you are saying people are trying to do. There are people who are trying to do what is not good. You have to judge if they are trying to do what really is good or if it is not.

We Jesus people need to evaluate others who say they are Christians. For example, if a woman is in charge of a program for feeding the poor, but she is using her position to arrange to have boyfriends for immoral activity . . . we have to evaluate that. And in case a man is in charge of charitable activities but he is using this to hit on wives who come to help, this needs to be evaluated.

And we see how politicians can promote the cause of some minority group or identity group, but the politicians never actually do anything for the people, but only take their votes. That politician needs to be evaluated.

So, may be you should tell us an example of what you say should not be judged.
 
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I quit being a Christian AGAIN. Why do Christians and religious people always have something negative to say about someone when they are trying to be good, then they talk about global history, then say be reborn again and don’t think on the past. Like sheesh what is it??

Are you talking about people you know who call themselves Christians,
or people who write comments on this website?
 
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Religion gets in the way of love for God foremost, and neighbor as self.

Find a fellowship that is grounded in God's love, even if it is just a small group of friends and family.And yes, don't turn your back on God due to his flawed sheep.

That said, if we are feeling bitter, etc, feel free to take time alone with God to get back on track. Sometimes we just need to get away from people for a time.
 
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One other thing I'd like to add. In your alone time with God, take your grievance on it to Him. I find often it is in these times that He will birth something in us by his Spirit to help us, and feed his sheep.

The enemy can try and abort that process by getting us in the flesh so we can bear bad fruit. Take alone time with God and bear it all.

For me it helps to know in my immaturity I wasn't much better, but i still have my moments, like recently i find some fellowships quite cold it's grievous. It's sad cause i just keep thinking imagine how He would move if we were more connected and working together. Often i find that those times gifts are activated and miraculous things happen. They still happen without that, but it is a beautiful thing when it all comes together and his love rules.

Sometimes i feel we are so intent on "getting it right" and watching out for demons that we miss it.

Just let his love flow. The rest of the stuff will blind us to what's more essential.

So not all fellowships do i find like that, but was out of touch for awhile and am surprised to find things haven't changed much. In sone cases, gotten worse there.

What can we do but let Him shine his light through us. Keep your eyes on Him and let his love flow and you, at the least, will be lifted by his Spirit.

God bless you. He's looking for those He can shine his love through. Be one of them.
 
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