mdancin4theLord
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FaithLikeARock said,"Beg pardon? It sounds to me like 16% was just a casual "Nah I don't want it". Of that 93%, the majority CAN'T raise a child - they don't have the financial or emotional security. Before you shout "BUT ADOPTION!" the adoption process in this country is so under funded and offers so little report that I would almost rather abort my child than stick them in a situation where most likely they will never have a stable home and most likely grow up to live on the streets."
Where did you get these statistics and information?
You said, "I've heard of ridiculous reasons to get an abortion (the most shallow of which was "I don't want to be fat for 9 months" - no joke) but people tend to write any prospective mother who gets an abortion for non-medical reasons as a horrible person who killed her baby - not taking into account that she was a mother who worked full time and still barely made enough to support herself. Or that her boyfriend was abusive and she didn't want to bring a child into that situation."
What is so ridiculous about it? Most all abortions are done because of excuses like this. Go to Guttmaucher Institute and look at their research on this. The fact is most women who get abortions in America are Christian. The abortions they are not because of any threat to their health. Less than 1% of ALL ABORTIONS are done to save the mothers life. This is hardly an issue. No hospital in the country would allow a mother to die...they would save her first...even it abortion was illegal.
Women should be taking this more seriously...getting pregnant. If you cant afford and dont want another baby....get fixed, so abortion would never be an option. Sex before marriage is sin. Most abortions are done on Christian single women. What does that say? It says there are a lot of sinning women out there having sex. And then when they get pregnant...using abortion as birth control. Guttmaucher also says most women don't just get one, they get multiple abortions today.
"And also, I say again, as I always do, I know many many people who are pro-life. But I know very FEW people who adopt. And most of the people I know who have adopted or plan to adopt aren't pro-life at all - they're very pro-choice. Strangely, there's a lot more people on the INTERNET who claim to adopt (emphasis on claim, because if every pro-life person on the Internet has adopted then why are there still children sitting in foster care?)"
I find this very hard to beleive, very hard. What I see is true are people who think that if you are pro-life and against abortion....the responsiblity for everyones children fall on your shoulders...that no one should have to take responsiblity for their own actions...that pro-lifers should even shoulder the burdons of those who do opt for abortion or adopt. Why?
If I am poor myself...and do pro-life work...and I responsibly have had two children who I am raising...why should someone who wants to give their children up become MY RESPONSIBLITY, just because I am against killing the ones they created? What about them standing up and doing the right thing? What you are saying is that....pro-choice people can sleep around conceive children...and because some people are pro-life...and dont want abortion to be on the table...should then be responsible for the children they conceived and had.
"Pro-lifers just want to judge and criminalize others. But they take absolutely NO actions to actually improve matters. They think they can just make it illegal and that's the end. Why? Because that's easy. That doesn't effect them - they can effectively ignore the mothers dying from back alley abortions, the babies left on the curb, the expanding foster care system, the increasing number of children without families - and still think they did a good job because hey, abortion is illegal.'
Pro-lifers just dont want unborn children dismembered alive. Why cant you see that? What is so difficult to get? We want abortion illegal because if it were it would save millions and millions and millions of human lives every year. We see that life is precious and that no one should have the right to kill just for the hell of it. Do you think abortion is humane? We don't even do this to our animals on the scale of human abortions every year. The back alley coathanger thing is a myth. Even PP said that before 1973 most abortions were done by doctors in offices. The US Bureau of Statistics...reports of this are so low...it was never an issue.
But by your mindset.....do we just legalize everything because people are going to do it anyway? I mean is that where you want to go with this? Shoudl we legalize all drugs......? Legalize and lower the drinking age because most kids do it anyway?
What your saying is that abortion is good.....because it eliminates some babies from things that MIGHT happen. They MIGHT be in a less than perfect family. Is your family perfect? LOL Mine isnt and most arent.They MIGHT be in a poor home, a home with an alcoholic parent...etc. MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT.
What RIGHT do you have to determine for another human being what MIGHT HAPPEN IN THEIR LIFE?
"If every pro-life person sucked up their Christian pride to want to procreate and ADOPTED, then we wouldn't need abortion. But no. Instead, the only interest they seem to take in adoption is ensuring as few couples as possible can even adopt a child. The requirements are so stringent, both financially and in regards to the couple, and yet the weirdest sickos still get through and make those kids suffer. Meanwhile couples who are lower middle class (still enough to support a child), gay couples of course, stand idly by, unable to help a child. Because pro-lifers are too selfish to help these kids themselves, and yet too foolish and naive to open up the system to honest families can adopt these kids while they're off having their own into the double digits. It's disgusting.'
If every Christian would live their life by the scriptures......acknowledging that premarital sex is wrong, is sin......we would not have this problem. Well we might because you are pro-abortion...so you think its acceptable for any reason probably going into the third trimester...to abort. This is not a Christian viewpoint.
How many adopted kids do you support?
"In my opinion, if a family wants to have more than one kid, then they should look into adoption. They can have a genetic child, but they can help one that needs a family too. The days of "passing on your seed" are long gone - legacies are started through nurturing."
What you say is it scriptural?
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