Who's complaining about investigations now?

[NightHawkeye]

From the "What goes around comes around", files: Who's complaining about investigations now?

Attorney General William Barr is looking into the murky origins of the politically-charged Justice Department investigations that have roiled American public life for the last three years.

Just how did the FBI's "Crossfire Hurricane" investigation into the 2016 Trump presidential campaign get started? What led the FBI to look into whether President Trump was working on behalf of Russia? Why did the Justice Department use an ancient, never-enforced law as a pretext to interrogate then-national security adviser Michael Flynn, leading to one of the most troubling court cases in recent years?
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But now, as Barr looks into how it all started, some voices that were part of that frenzy are changing their tune about the value of investigations. They now express concern about investigations, concern that Barr is politicizing the Justice Department to go after perceived political enemies.

"The power to investigate is the power to destroy," a former U.S. attorney, Gregory Brower, told the Washington Post recently.
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"President Trump appears to be now using [his] power, with an assist from the Justice Department, to exact revenge on some perceived political enemies," said NBC's Chuck Todd.

The president is "weaponizing the Department of Justice against perceived enemies," said CNN's Anderson Cooper.

Not to be too blunt about it, but where were these voices the last three years?​

 

[ViaCrucis]

Investigations are fine.

Using the Justice Department as the president's personal attack dog isn't.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[NightHawkeye]

Investigations are fine.

Using the Justice Department as the president's personal attack dog isn't.

-CryptoLutheran

Didn't you previously favor letting investigations play out?

I mean, if people violated the law shouldn't they be held accountable?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Didn't you previously favor letting investigations play out?

I mean, if people violated the law shouldn't they be held accountable?

What part of "investigations are fine" was confusing for you?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[NightHawkeye]

What part of "investigations are fine" was confusing for you?

-CryptoLutheran

Which president are you suggesting used the DOJ as a "personal attack dog"?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Which president are you suggesting used the DOJ as a "personal attack dog"?

It's a hypothetical. It would be wrong to use the DOJ as the president's--any president--attack dog.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[essentialsaltes]

Attorney General William Barr is looking into the murky origins of the politically-charged Justice Department investigations that have roiled American public life for the last three years.

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Not to be too blunt about it, but where were these voices the last three years?​

Waiting for the results of the investigations that the Trump Administration had already started.

Huber (Nov 2017-Jan 2020) "effectively ended with no tangible results"

Horowitz (March 2018-Dec 2019) “we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations”

Durham (May 2019-???) : Barr has indicated there may be months left in this one. They will probably charge the FBI lawyer who fudged a document and resigned.

 

[Tom 1]

From the "What goes around comes around", files: Who's complaining about investigations now?

Attorney General William Barr is looking into the murky origins of the politically-charged Justice Department investigations that have roiled American public life for the last three years.

Just how did the FBI's "Crossfire Hurricane" investigation into the 2016 Trump presidential campaign get started? What led the FBI to look into whether President Trump was working on behalf of Russia? Why did the Justice Department use an ancient, never-enforced law as a pretext to interrogate then-national security adviser Michael Flynn, leading to one of the most troubling court cases in recent years?
...
But now, as Barr looks into how it all started, some voices that were part of that frenzy are changing their tune about the value of investigations. They now express concern about investigations, concern that Barr is politicizing the Justice Department to go after perceived political enemies.

"The power to investigate is the power to destroy," a former U.S. attorney, Gregory Brower, told the Washington Post recently.
...
"President Trump appears to be now using [his] power, with an assist from the Justice Department, to exact revenge on some perceived political enemies," said NBC's Chuck Todd.

The president is "weaponizing the Department of Justice against perceived enemies," said CNN's Anderson Cooper.

Not to be too blunt about it, but where were these voices the last three years?​

Come on, you can't see how loaded this article is? Just look at the language used. This isn't reporting. If it had any more negative adjectives it would implode.

 

[Tom 1]

Waiting for the results of the investigations that the Trump Administration had already started.

Huber (Nov 2017-Jan 2020) "effectively ended with no tangible results"

Horowitz (March 2018-Dec 2019) “we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations”

Durham (May 2019-???) : Barr has indicated there may be months left in this one. They will probably charge the FBI lawyer who fudged a document and resigned.

Unlikely to stop Trump calling for more. Clinton has been investigated 17 times, mostly for the same things, with the same nothing worth bothering with coming up every time.

 

[DaisyDay]

From the OP article:

Where were they when the public learned that the FBI, using false information, wiretapped a low-level former Trump foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, giving it entree into some of the campaign's communications?

Carter Page wasn't surveiled until after he left Donald's campaign.

Where were they when the Justice Department cooked up the idea that Flynn had violated the Logan Act, the 1799 law under which no one has ever been convicted, as a reason to question Flynn?

Because no one has been convicted under the Act doesn't render the Act void. Flynn was not charge with that, so it seems, at best, a moot point.

Concern trolling or Just Asking Questions, right?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Didn't you previously favor letting investigations play out?

I mean, if people violated the law shouldn't they be held accountable?

Did Hillary Clinton violate the law?

Didn't the GOP spend the better part of two decades and half a billion in tax dollars trying to nail her (legally speaking) for... something? Anything?

Has their decades-long record of complete and abject failure deterred them in any way?

Is this how all of the regime's (real or imagined) enemies are to be treated in One Nation Under Donald?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Durham (May 2019-???) : Barr has indicated there may be months left in this one. They will probably charge the FBI lawyer who fudged a document and resigned.

Durham probe expected to end this summer: sources

U.S. Attorney John Durham is expected to wrap up his investigation into the origins of the Russia probe by the end of the summer, sources confirmed to Fox News.

One source suggested the investigation could end as soon as July, while another said it could be closer to September,

 

[mark46]

Waiting for the results of the investigations that the Trump Administration had already started.

Huber (Nov 2017-Jan 2020) "effectively ended with no tangible results"

Horowitz (March 2018-Dec 2019) “we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations”

Durham (May 2019-???) : Barr has indicated there may be months left in this one. They will probably charge the FBI lawyer who fudged a document and resigned.

Facts are irrelevant on the sub-board.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Waiting for the results of the investigations that the Trump Administration had already started.

Huber (Nov 2017-Jan 2020) "effectively ended with no tangible results"

Horowitz (March 2018-Dec 2019) “we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations”

Durham (May 2019-???) : Barr has indicated there may be months left in this one. They will probably charge the FBI lawyer who fudged a document and resigned.

They have and he is expected to plead guilty.

A former FBI lawyer has agreed to plead guilty to altering an email that helped justify surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser as part of the 2016 investigation into Russian interference in the election, according to his lawyer and a person familiar with the matter.

Horowitz’s report concluded the bureau had an “authorized purpose” to initiate the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign. Page was only a part of that inquiry, and Horowitz has said he did not find evidence of the problems there “infecting” the rest of the probe.

 

[cow451]

Check back on Wednesday.

 

[Nithavela]

They have and he is expected to plead guilty.

A former FBI lawyer has agreed to plead guilty to altering an email that helped justify surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser as part of the 2016 investigation into Russian interference in the election, according to his lawyer and a person familiar with the matter.

Horowitz’s report concluded the bureau had an “authorized purpose” to initiate the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign. Page was only a part of that inquiry, and Horowitz has said he did not find evidence of the problems there “infecting” the rest of the probe.

I have to ask, do you keep a ledger with all the threads in this forum or can you remember this by heart?

 

[essentialsaltes]

I have to ask, do you keep a ledger with all the threads in this forum or can you remember this by heart?

I've found it helpful to keep a long memory in order to check back on predictions, and hold people (including myself) accountable to some extent. But no I don't literally have a ledger. But some niggling unanswered questions float around in my noggin, and when that later data point finally arrives and satisfies my craving for closure, I use the search box to uncover the relevant thread (or at least a relevant thread).