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Were they the fallen angels?
It does not always mean angelic beings.
These were likely men from the line of Seth, who intermarried with the daughters of men in the world, likely women from Cain's line. Noah was the only and last righteous person in that line and generation who did not corrupt his ways, and it was through him that God preserved the race of mankind.
This is correct. Also for further clarification I would assume if the sons of God were angelic beings lying with daughters of men they were the ones cast out of heaven as what they doing was something God did not want.
I have heard of this interpretation before. Look into the giants of Canaan before completely dismissing it. It sounds crazy, but it is Biblical. Remember Caleb and Joshua along with several other spies scouted the land and reported there being giants. They were the only ones that had faith in God and trusted that God would take care of them and would help them defeat the land's current inhabitants. That was why Caleb and Joshua were the only ones allowed to enter the Promised Land from that generation.
I don't know, I think about what Jesus said, that angels do not marry. This would seem to debunk not only the notion that they did marry, but had sexual relations with actual women (assuming they had genitalia for some odd reason). Also in Genesis, the institution of marriage was only established for men.
See, this is another proof that these giants were not half-breed creatures: they existed after the flood, and among the pagans. As noted above, these were men of renown who existed before the flood.
This is why God did not like the nephilim. The angels that did this were not doing God's will.
I would say when you have time research it some and looking at the facts see what makes sense to you. The idea is that there was nephilim blood in some or all the people that were on the ark. There is one theory that one of the reasons God told the Jewish people to go into the land of Canaan and kill all the people there was to wipe out nephilim DNA from tainting future generations of people. Also nephilim could have been an additional reason for God flooding the Earth. These giants written about in the old testament were huge and not comparable to even the tallest people today.
Now I try not to take everything in the Bible literally and realize that certain things have symbolic meaning. To me personally there just seems to be a lot of historical evidence for nephilim, giants among men. We can agree to disagree. I think at the very least it would be something interesting to look into if you feel like it.
This still runs into others problems, assuming that Noah had Nephilim blood to pass onto the Canaanites. Canaan is the grandson of Noah. We have a clear record of Noah's paternal line, they were all men, descended from Adam. Noah had no "angel" DNA, if that is even a thing. So these giants, who were real, were just men who lived in Canaan, just as they were men before the flood.
t's too bad that some Christians don't accept Rabbi Moses Maimonides' advice that the first 11 chapters of Genesis are not to be taken as literal history --- they are folklore and borrowed myth to fill in the gap in the period before the Israelites' emergence as a self-aware cultural entity.
Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These (Nephillim) were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
I think the nephhillim were those born from the unions of women and sons of god. That does not mean sons of god were human.Bible states they were men ... not angels.
The children born of women and angels were people. The sons of god were not. Job uses the term to describe angels.
Job 1:6; 38:7
I think the nephhillim were those born from the unions of women and sons of god. That does not mean sons of god were human.
Ancient history also lists spirit beings as having lived on earth with men. That seems to be a feature of the distant past here on earth.
What does big people in David's day have to do with whether their great great great granddad was a son of god?well there are these verses:
Numbers 13:33
And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.”
sons of Anak
Deuteronomy 2:10-11
(The Emim formerly lived there, a people great and many, and tall as the Anakim. Like the Anakim they are also counted as Rephaim, but the Moabites call them Emim.
So talks about other people being like them ... so were they not human (angels) as well?
Unless we were to count that instance I guess.Also, bible never talks anywhere else about angels having procreation capabilities.
In the link I gave I thin it spoke of the Nephhillim as the children of the sons of god, not the sons of god.Also says we will be like the angels ... so to me it doesn't make since the Nephillim were angels.
Well, then do not claim they were not!It would seem angels are also called sons of God ... and they met/meet with God (such as in Job) ... but that does not mean the Nephillim were in fact angels and mated with humans.
In Genesis 4 and 5 the human race is divided into two main groups: the descendants of Cain (Gen. 4: 17-24) and those of Seth ( verses 25, 26). and there is an extensive account of lineages.
Of course they were created after their kinds. The thing is that adaptations and changes happen later. I mean I doubt Adam was created a pygmy for example. It is also logical that skin pigments are results of adapting over the ages.Genesis also states all were created after their own kind and that includes humans.
Sons of god were not part of creation on earth that I have heard. So having a hybrid child would not be a surprise or have anything to do with how God created man kind.If angelic beings mated with humans at some point, then we would violate after their own kind and all of us would be some kind of hybrid human/celestial being.
Fine, believe whatever you like.I don't believe the Nelphillim were angels.
Doesn't really matter what one believes about them, has nothing to do with salvation, ;o)
God Bless.
It is great that many people are not dumb enough to swallow some unbelieving lukewarm nonsense, I would think.It's too bad that some Christians don't accept Rabbi Moses Maimonides' advice that the first 11 chapters of Genesis are not to be taken as literal history --- they are folklore and borrowed myth to fill in the gap in the period before the Israelites' emergence as a self-aware cultural entity.
It would seem angels are also called sons of God ... and they met/meet with God (such as in Job) ... but that does not mean the Nephillim were in fact angels and mated with humans.
However I grow tired of some teachings from churches that blame man's wickedness on demons, as if that was the big reason God had to send the flood.
Doesn't really matter what one believes about them, has nothing to do with salvation, ;o)
Ok.I would assume the flood was due to man's sin, but this does not mean there could also have been extra reasons as to why God choose to do it.
Yes, as I have said before it is just something interesting to research and look into.