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Who Started the Great Schism?

Discussion in 'St. Justin Martyr's Corner: Debate an Orthodox Chr' started by abacabb3, Jul 22, 2022.

  1. prodromos

    prodromos Senior Veteran Supporter

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    There is true union and false union. Only the former is from God.
     
  2. ArmyMatt

    ArmyMatt Regular Member Supporter

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    Rome for the century before the Schism agreed with us the filioque was heresy. Rome in the 13 century condemns us for not using the filioque and calls us heretics. Rome since the mid-20th century has said we aren’t heretics, and are not wrong for not using the filioque, since that’s just a more ancient version of the Creed.

    not exactly consistent theology.
     
  3. ArmyMatt

    ArmyMatt Regular Member Supporter

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    it’s weird that was never used to tackle any of the early heresies, especially if everyone knew this was a unique grace of the bishop of Rome.
     
  4. prodromos

    prodromos Senior Veteran Supporter

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    I've brought this up many times before. If the Catholic Church doctrine regarding papal infallibility was truly a thing then why was it never exercised in the times where the Church was being torn by heresy and schism? Why wasn't the decision of the bishop of Rome sought out and obeyed if that was truly a teaching of the Church.
    The answer of course is simple. It was not ever the teaching of the Church.
     
  5. ArmyMatt

    ArmyMatt Regular Member Supporter

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    Ephesus slams this notion in the face. you’re gonna tell me that everyone knew about Papal infallibility (and Sts Cyril of Alexandria and Celestine of Rome were allied), but Ephesus will be called and completed before Rome even gets there?
     
  6. abacabb3

    abacabb3 Newbie

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    From warrior, I see all sorts of non sequiturs, but there appears to be no response that the Latin Church created a parallel Bishopric which in effect is defintion schism.
     
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