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Who Reigns On Earth In The Millenial Kingdom?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Minister Monardo, Jul 29, 2020.

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  1. BABerean2

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    If you believe Christ will be conducting funeral services in a sin-cursed world, for many years after His Second Coming, make sure you rip 1 Corinthians 15 out of your Bible.

    If you do not believe Christ will judge both the living and the dead at His appearing, make sure you rip 2 Timothy 4:1 out of your Bible.

    If you think the Book of Revelation is in chronological order, make sure you rip Revelation 11:15-18, and Revelation 16:15-16 out of your Bible.

    If you think there will be mortals left alive on the planet after the return of Christ, make sure you rip Matthew 25:31-46 out of your Bible.

    After all of the ripping is completed, you will have a Bible which proves you are correct.

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  2. shilohsfoal

    shilohsfoal Jacks or better to open

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    According to both revelation Gog and his followers are killed at the end of the milleniel reign.
    Obviously your interpretation that Gog is immortal was wrong.
    And to answer the op.
    Those who were killed for thier testimony of Jesus and who had not worshiped the beast or its image shall be resurrected from the dead and they shall reign for 1000 years

    Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

    After the 1000 years, Alot of mortals Invade the land of Israel and are killed.
     
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  3. Neostarwcc

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    Last I checked he wasnt claiming that gog was immortal and did in fact claim that he would be consumed by fire. You're completely ignoring his points.

    That being said /wave! Hi thread!
     
  4. shilohsfoal

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    His point is there are no mortals on earth after Christ comes.
    Christ comes and resurrects those who had been killed for thier testimony of Christ and they reign with Christ for 1000 years when Gog invades Israel.
    According to him there are no mortals alive anywhere in the entire world after Christ comes.



    Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

    Revelation 20:5 The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection.

    Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

    Revelation 20:7 When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison,

    Revelation 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.

    Revelation 20:9 And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.
     
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  5. mlepfitjw

    mlepfitjw May you be blessed!

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    Christ Kingdom is not of this world. Christ kingdom will never belong on this world, however His word never dies and while we are here he told us that the kingdom resides in us. That comes through faith and the kingdom of God the reigns inside of people is by faith and believing in the Lord Jesus Christ dying and being raised again.

    The word of Lord shall never pass away, just like a thousand years is one day with the Lord and one day like a thousand years. His message will be here on earth forever, to stay for all generations in the future and the people here today in the present.
     
  6. shilohsfoal

    shilohsfoal Jacks or better to open

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    If the saints are not in this world then who shall reign over the kingdoms under heaven, which would be upon earth?

    Daniel 7:27 Then the sovereignty, dominion, and greatness of the kingdoms under all of heaven will be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will serve and obey Him.'

    Will the beast continue to reign over the promised land as it does today?
     
  7. sovereigngrace

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    No, that is your faulty interpretation. Your doctrine is built upon one sandy assumption: that Revelation 20 is chronological to Revelation 19. Disprove that fallacy and Premil falls like a deck of cards.
     
  8. sovereigngrace

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    Why do you insist on attributing first advent passages to the second coming? Because they prove your doctrine to be in error.
     
  9. shilohsfoal

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    So you want me to believe Abraham's seed has already recieved the kingdom of the Lord where Israel, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, Gaza, and Saudi Arabia dwell today?

    When exactly are you saying they recieved that kingdom forever?

    Daniel 7:27 Then the sovereignty, dominion, and greatness of the kingdoms under all of heaven will be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will serve and obey Him.'
     
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  11. mlepfitjw

    mlepfitjw May you be blessed!

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    Shiloh, I believe all of scripture has been fulfilled. No worries about Christ coming back to get the saints cause He already did it. That kingdom in Daniel kind resembles that of the kingdom of God which came by the Lord Jesus Christ and all those saints who kept themselves (pure and blameless ) close to God were taken away, and now we get to continue to live and accept the Lord and Love God if we make the choice to do so. Or we can hate them, which ever floats a persons boat.

    God bless.
     
  12. sovereigngrace

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    I did not dispute it - as you know. Fake news again. You are expert at twisting what Amils write. Your doctrine is built upon the chronological fallacy.
     
  13. shilohsfoal

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    It's nice that you can except the Lord and love God. The world isn't so perfect for others.

     
  14. sovereigngrace

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    Has the second coming occurred? Has the general resurrection/judgment occurred?
     
  15. shilohsfoal

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    I quoted revelation 20.
    Its perfect as it is and doesn't need you to change a word.
     
  16. sovereigngrace

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    All nations have been welcomed into the kingdom for 2000 years. Check the scriptures. Check history. It is called the great commission.
     
  17. sovereigngrace

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    I don't. Revelation 20 shows that the millennium/Satan's little season began at the first resurrection (which you deny) and ends at the climactic coming of Christ and the general resurrection/judgment (which you also deny).
     
  18. shilohsfoal

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    According to Jesus, when he comes everyone who sins is cast out of his kingdom.
    Yet you preach everyone is welcome in his kingdom.

    Matthew 13:41 NIV: The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.

    Funny how you preach the opposite of Jesus.
     
  19. shilohsfoal

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    Satan's little season?
    The verse says 1000 years. NOT 2000 or 3000 or 4000.It states 1000.
    Last time I read Revelation 20,the saints who were beheaded for thier witness of Jesus are resurrected and reign with Christ for 1000 years.

    What saints who have been beheaded for testifying of Jesus are you claiming have been resurrected and when are you saying they were resurrected?

    Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
     
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  20. mlepfitjw

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    God loved the whole population that He gave is only begotten son, once raised, for the sin of them all. God loves all people, even the worst people on the planet. So to use a media source for justification of how bad the world is... well no kidding some people do not have it made in this world cause it is filled will choices and freedom for all humans to choose and make decisions of how they see fit. (If they are dying for the Lord at least they don’t have to suffer in this world anymore do they) this is coming from my own perception of your little ploy of how bad the world is.

    Someone asked if Jesus Christ came back yet. Spiritually yes, the spirit of Christ came back, and believe that if you ask any Christian believer, if Jesus Christ is with them everyone of them is deemed to almost always respond with yes, or yes but.
     
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