First of all as usual your sources and fan made videos and blogs. Give me an authentic source and it mentions hadith is in Sahih bukhari. Give me the hadith number.
Give me evidence and then we can talk and for the love of God give me an authentic Islamic source not David woods youtube videos or forums. I was hoping you would have improved since the last suggestions I gave you
It's clear in sirah they attacked Muslims and paid the price. Maybe moses and David didn't kill those they had treaty with but God did tell him as per ur in bible to kill babies livestock women who did no wrong at all. So much for treaty. Hahaaa. I would again advise you to use some authentic sources not write anything. I mean seriously. It's a waste of time.
The Bible said God ordered Moses and David to do unto others as they did unto you the Old Testament operated under an eye for eye law. If you kill our people and children we’ll kill yours that’s how it worked before, they were never ordered to attack people who did nothing to them nor are they the ultimate moral example to be followed by all Jews and Christians. I read the Sirah myself where does it say they attacked the Muslim?
He already did, Shabir ally never gave strong responses to David’s points during the debate.
Actually it’s an Islamic website. I didn’t find it in Bukhari, but I did find it in other sources:
I would call that compound dishonesty.
You contradict your own statement. The people who were ordered to be killed did nothing. Their forefathers did. Bible even says son shall not bear the guilt of father in Ezekiel. Eye for an eye is fine if the person who did the harm is done the same harm not his progeny. You are saying like it's fine to rape the daughter of the rapist just because that person raped someone's daughter.
It's Wordpress blog that anybody can write. I can direct you to oneness denomination or non trinitarian site and tell u see it's a Christian website(which actually it is) and say they don't believe in trinity. So either give me sahih hadith number or websites like islamqa.Info or quranic verses
Yep kanz ul amal is an unauthentic book of hadith. I've told him this before and it seems he forgot that
I didn’t claim that the Hadith originated in Bukhari the site did which is an Islamic site and if I admitted it wasn’t there, then how is it dishonest in my part? By secular standards and scholarship pretty much all Hadiths are weak in terms of reliability. The fact that most “authentic” Hadith are recorded by a person who was exposed as a liar many times and only converted three years prior to Mohammed’s death (Abu Huraira) pretty much exposes us to the reliability of Hadith.
I wouldn’t say that as a Christian I’m saying that because Shabir Ally is telling things from his own perspective and that of his religion while David Wood is taking the historical background of it.
The eye for an eye law says that if you kill my father I kill yours for example. That’s how an eye for an eye law worked in places like Babylon and ancient Israel at one point. Is it barbaric by today’s standards, yes, but it worked for their time. The people ordered to be killed made war on the Israelites and killed their kids so God enacted the eye for an eye law on them, since they did so to you, do it to them. Eziekiel to referring to responsibility for personal sin, the eye for an eye law doesn’t take responsibility into account, regardless if the kids were innocent the Israelites at the time had the right to revenge themselves on their enemies.
Can’t remember, unless you could show it to me with the proof and I’d also have to check your claims about it.
