• Welcome to Christian Forums
  1. Welcome to Christian Forums, a forum to discuss Christianity in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  2. The forums in the Christian Congregations category are now open only to Christian members. Please review our current Faith Groups list for information on which faith groups are considered to be Christian faiths. Christian members please remember to read the Statement of Purpose threads for each forum within Christian Congregations before posting in the forum.

Featured Futurist Only Who is the beast that rains down fire?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by The Times, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    These are the Biblical versus.....

    He did astounding miracles, even making fire flash down to earth from the sky while everyone was watching. (Ref 13:13 NLT)

    He, I believe refers to the final global power before Christ's brilliant coming.

    So, this global power must have the technology that causes a lightening flash from the sky to the ground below, resulting in the incineration of the intended Kill Zone (KZ).

    One technology comes to mind and that is Nikola Tesla's wireless electrical (electromagnetic) free and clean energy, which is also known today as HAARP.

    How Nikola Tesla's wireless electromagnetic energy works? is based on bouncing off the Ionosphere, frequency controlled electromagnetic waves from an array of antennas, which HAARP does.

    The idea behind Nikola Tesla's invention is to bounce frequency modulated electromagnetic waves of the Ionosphere, so to start an oscillating ripple effect that will traverse the Ionosphere as it gains amplitude, until resonant frequency is reached at the intended distribution point. At resonant frequencies, small periodic driving forces have the ability to produce large amplitude oscillations, due to the storage of vibrational energy.

    The Ionosphere is made up of Ions which are negatively charged particles which can be vibrated by frequency modulated electromagnetic waves. They can be vibrated in a way to create an electromagnetic tsunami, which reaches the required resonant frequency. At the destination target, the Ions in the Ionosphere are so severely jolted by the waves, that they create a flash over from the sky to the positively charged ground below. So that from small driving forces at the input side of the wireless power transfer system, an almost infinite in amplitude oscillations are achieved at the output destination, which will then output a lightening like flash over upon an X-Y grid on the ground. If this process is modulated to produce continuous cycles of flash overs to the ground, then collectors can be arranged on the ground to collect the resulting energy transfer, to then be used
    within a power station miles away to distribute as free and clean energy to the grid.

    This is the same principle observed when lightening strikes occur at finite points on the ground, however with the Nikola Tesla system, a two dimensional grid on the ground can be blanketed by the electrical flash over, which would electrify an X-Y plane, almost like an electrical blanket. If weaponised, it could literally fry all electrical curcuits and melt flesh and incinerate all living tissues in all life forms. The only objects impervious to this are electrical stakes or matellic mesh like grid collectors that will be induced by the electromagnetic particles, much like primary transformers of a power plant and as a result these will output huge voltages, that will be stepped down in voltages by substation transformers miles away in the power distribution line, for distribution to the power grid, at the stepped down voltages required. When the voltages are stepped down, the power remains the same, however the current will increase, making it efficient and economically feasible to run cities and towns.

    As we saw the secret atomic weapon used in World War 2, followed by the advent of the nuclear power age, we will see the inevitable use of this weaponised Nikola Tesla secret weapon in the sight of all the world, before it leads to the new era of free and clean energy, just like where the atomic bomb led to. Since cars will be run purely electrically, then the economy will be made to run of Nikola Tesla free and clean energy as opposed the dirty to the environment pertro dollar we have had since the 70s. Carbon emissions would drop to almost zero overnight.



     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2017
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Useful Useful x 1
    • List
    We teamed up with Faith Counseling. Can they help you today?
  2. timewerx

    timewerx the village i--o--t--

    +4,146
    Christian Seeker
    Single
    The Space Shuttle Columbia disaster is the fire brought down from heaven (outer space) that everyone saw (on the ground and the News on TV.....)

    The Beast is the Western Alliance/Coalition.
     
  3. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

    +1,644
    United States
    Non-Denom
    Private
    The false prophet will be a individual person originating from Israel.
     
  4. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    Did that event globally bring fear in men's hearts?
    Is the bringing down of fire a single or multiple events?
     
  5. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    Possible.
     
  6. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    I edited my original post slightly, because I didn't want to add any more of my opiniated conjectures and wanted to see what people thought on the topic of the fire that he rains down in full view of the watchful gazing eyes of humanity.
     
  7. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

    +26,351
    Protestant
    Private
    US-Others
    Have you seen the trailer for the upcoming movie Geostorm? It is my opinion that the technology we have is quite capable of destroying us.
     
  8. imsaneru

    imsaneru Member

    109
    +37
    Australia
    Christian
    Single
    If there is a false messiah/God coming to the jews , then there has to be a false Elijah as well. The original Elijah made fire come down from heaven to prove that his God was the true God. Back in the days of Jesus they asked John if he was Elijah and he said NO , and when they asked Jesus to show them a sign from heaven he too said NO , so yeah this is still what their looking for today. It says the fire is for a "SIGN" and that this sign will be the deception. Too bad they are only reading the Torah , had they been Christians they would have this information.
     
  9. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    Very good point you make. It is possible it could be an attempted miracle to counterfeit Elijah's miracle or even the Lord, who rained down fire on Sodom and Gomorrah.

    This is where I am torn between whether it is an attempted miracle or a secret technological weapon.

    How can we know for sure?
     
  10. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    Interesting movie to watch.

    It is possible that a secret technological weapon maybe used by an individual who hacks it or the deep state, like the group Spectra in the old James Bond movies, who operate as the shadow world government.

    What I find difficult to put together is, if it were technological, why does the Bible use the word fire?

    The Bible doesn't seem to explicitly say that it is a weapon. Could it have a dual purpose, that is both technological and miraculous, if it remains a state secret.
     
  11. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

    +26,351
    Protestant
    Private
    US-Others
    There is so much the Bible does not give details about. There was a time when I could not imagine how certain things could happen. But since we have entered the technological age of today, things I could not conceive in my mind back in the 60's and 70's seem plausible, possible, and probable to me today.However, the Bible does intimate in broad terms that it is man that is destroying the Earth, see Rev.11:18 where he promises that He will destroy those who destroy the Earth. The Bible uses the word fire,imho, because there will be fire.
     
  12. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    Yes, it is defintely man who is crossing the threshold of destruction. How does he rain down fire in the sight of humanity? How is this feet of technology and/or miracle connected to the man of the beast 666? How does the image of the beast speak?

    So many questions that I thought I once knew.
     
  13. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

    +26,351
    Protestant
    Private
    US-Others
    T.V., internet,social media(facebook,twitter, snapchat, etc)
    Her will command the control of all media. He is Prince of the power of the air.
    That is simple...robotics
     
  14. imsaneru

    imsaneru Member

    109
    +37
    Australia
    Christian
    Single
    Well if we continue the story he then cons them into worshipping the image of the Beast , now this is not the first time that they have done this , they also worshiped an image of a beast back in the days of Moses using a golden calf. Have no idea what this next beast image will be though.

    Next is a mark on forehead and right hand , the name of the beast or his number.
    Just google Teffilin or phylactery which is already in place , only a few changes need to be made and then Satan will have his day in the sun , but not for long.
    [​IMG]

    BTW....Satan has already made fire come down when he destroyed the live stock of Job.
     
  15. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    Fire could mean the things which bring people onto judgement before the righteous Lord. These things will deceive and suck the whole world into its tentacles.

    Yes, that can be for sure.

    Transhumanism to post humanism could very well be the robotic narrative and dance moves we see in pop music. The beast is made in the image of man 666, that is why it speaks not as a human, but as a post humanist entity that man created in his own image.
     
  16. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    True. The next beast would raise a speaking idol in place of the golden calf. @Handmaid for Jesus made a good point that the beast that speaks could possibly be a post humanist robotic entity showing the way towards destruction.

    The mark could be a tangible change that happens in a person who receive the mark. Maybe that transaction can not be reversed once taken. I recall the image of God as opposed to the image of the beast as declaring authorship of whatever results from ththe transaction.

    Mmmmm....could be a religious aspect to the mark as well.
     
  17. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    From what I have learnt so far is, that the fire must encompass the mother of all deceptions and the mark is irreversible and the beast classification could be the result of the transaction.

    Does that mean that humanity will become something else, which is totally different to Yahweh's Image.

    Scripture states that all the world will receive his mark who are not written in the book of life. Does this mean that we must choose death over life? because if choosing an extension of life would mean embracing the irreversible mark?

    Everyone would want to live longer right?
     
  18. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

    +26,351
    Protestant
    Private
    US-Others
    Agreed, the total corruption of our Father's way as it was in the days of Noah. We need to lose the image that Hollywood has given us of that time. It has been discovered that there was a very high tech society existed prior to the flood of Noah. You might want to explore this thread.
    Pre-Trib Only - The role if technology in the end times
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • List
  19. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

    +26,351
    Protestant
    Private
    US-Others
    Yes, people, wanting to live longer, will be duped into taking the mark to that end. They won't understand about the lake of fire. We have to understand about the resurrection and the life. In Christ we have eternal life. In Him though we die we will live again through the resurrection guaranteed by the Lord Jesus Christ. We must choose death over the carnality we now have.
     
  20. The Times

    The Times Well-Known Member

    +794
    Eastern Orthodox
    Private
    Technology is the means to the END!
     
Loading...