LDS Who is more guilty one sin or many sins?

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James 2:10-12 Good News Translation (GNT)

10 Whoever breaks one commandment is guilty of breaking them all. 11 For the same one who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder.” Even if you do not commit adultery, you have become a lawbreaker if you commit murder. 12 Speak and act as people who will be judged by the law that sets us free.


“ ‘Come now, and let us reason together,’ ” says the Lord, ‘Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool’ ” (Isaiah 1:18)

1 John 1:8-10 Good News Translation (GNT)
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and there is no truth in us. 9 But if we confess our sins to God, he will keep his promise and do what is right: he will forgive us our sins and purify us from all our wrongdoing. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make a liar out of God, and his word is not in us.


Matthew 5:28 Good News Translation (GNT)
28 But now I tell you: anyone who looks at a woman and wants to possess her is guilty of committing adultery with her in his heart.

Matthew 5:28 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
28 But I tell you that if a man looks at a woman and wants to sin sexually with her, he has already committed that sin with her in his mind.

Matthew 19:18-22 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
18 The man asked, “Which ones?”

Jesus answered, “‘You must not murder anyone, you must not commit adultery, you must not steal, you must not tell lies about others, 19 you must respect your father and mother,’[a] and ‘love your neighbor the same as you love yourself.’[c]”

20 The young man said, “I have obeyed all these commands. What else do I need?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, then go and sell all that you own. Give the money to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come and follow me!”

22 But when the young man heard Jesus tell him to give away his money, he was sad. He didn’t want to do this, because he was very rich. So he left.

Leviticus 5 Good News Translation (GNT)
Cases Requiring Sin Offerings
5 Sin offerings are required in the following cases.

If you are officially summoned to give evidence in court and do not give information about something you have seen or heard, you must suffer the consequences.

2 If you unintentionally touch anything ritually unclean, such as a dead animal, you are unclean and guilty as soon as you realize what you have done.

3 If you unintentionally touch anything of human origin that is unclean, whatever it may be, you are guilty as soon as you realize what you have done.

4 If you make a careless vow, no matter what it is about, you are guilty as soon as you realize what you have done.

5 When you are guilty, you must confess the sin, 6 and as the penalty for your sin you must bring to the Lord a female sheep or goat as an offering. The priest shall offer the sacrifice for your sin.

7 If you cannot afford a sheep or a goat, you shall bring to the Lord as the payment for your sin two doves or two pigeons, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. 8 You shall bring them to the priest, who will first offer the bird for the sin offering. He will break its neck without pulling off its head 9 and sprinkle some of its blood against the side of the altar. The rest of the blood will be drained out at the base of the altar. This is an offering to take away sin. 10 Then he shall offer the second bird as a burnt offering, according to the regulations. In this way the priest shall offer the sacrifice for your sin, and you will be forgiven.

11 If you cannot afford two doves or two pigeons, you shall bring two pounds of flour as a sin offering. You shall not put any olive oil or any incense on it, because it is a sin offering, not a grain offering. 12 You shall bring it to the priest, who will take a handful of it as a token that it has all been offered to the Lord, and he will burn it on the altar as a food offering. It is an offering to take away sin. 13 In this way the priest shall offer the sacrifice for your sin, and you will be forgiven. The rest of the flour belongs to the priest, just as in the case of a grain offering.

Repayment Offerings
14 The Lord gave the following regulations to Moses. 15 If any of you sin unintentionally by failing to hand over the payments that are sacred to the Lord, you shall bring as your repayment offering to the Lord a male sheep or goat without any defects. Its value is to be determined according to the official standard. 16 You must make the payments you have failed to hand over and must pay an additional 20 percent. You shall give it to the priest, and the priest shall offer the animal as a sacrifice for your sin, and you will be forgiven.

17 If any of you sin unintentionally by breaking any of the Lord's commands, you are guilty and must pay the penalty. 18 You must bring to the priest as a repayment offering a male sheep or goat without any defects. Its value is to be determined according to the official standard. The priest shall offer the sacrifice for the sin which you committed unintentionally, and you will be forgiven. 19 It is a repayment offering for the sin you committed against the Lord.
 

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James 2:10-12 Good News Translation (GNT)

10 Whoever breaks one commandment is guilty of breaking them all. 11 For the same one who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder.” Even if you do not commit adultery, you have become a lawbreaker if you commit murder. 12 Speak and act as people who will be judged by the law that sets us free.


“ ‘Come now, and let us reason together,’ ” says the Lord, ‘Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool’ ” (Isaiah 1:18)

1 John 1:8-10 Good News Translation (GNT)
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and there is no truth in us. 9 But if we confess our sins to God, he will keep his promise and do what is right: he will forgive us our sins and purify us from all our wrongdoing. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make a liar out of God, and his word is not in us.


Matthew 5:28 Good News Translation (GNT)
28 But now I tell you: anyone who looks at a woman and wants to possess her is guilty of committing adultery with her in his heart.

Matthew 5:28 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
28 But I tell you that if a man looks at a woman and wants to sin sexually with her, he has already committed that sin with her in his mind.

Matthew 19:18-22 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
18 The man asked, “Which ones?”

Jesus answered, “‘You must not murder anyone, you must not commit adultery, you must not steal, you must not tell lies about others, 19 you must respect your father and mother,’[a] and ‘love your neighbor the same as you love yourself.’[c]”

20 The young man said, “I have obeyed all these commands. What else do I need?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, then go and sell all that you own. Give the money to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come and follow me!”

22 But when the young man heard Jesus tell him to give away his money, he was sad. He didn’t want to do this, because he was very rich. So he left.

Leviticus 5 Good News Translation (GNT)
Cases Requiring Sin Offerings
5 Sin offerings are required in the following cases.

If you are officially summoned to give evidence in court and do not give information about something you have seen or heard, you must suffer the consequences.

2 If you unintentionally touch anything ritually unclean, such as a dead animal, you are unclean and guilty as soon as you realize what you have done.

3 If you unintentionally touch anything of human origin that is unclean, whatever it may be, you are guilty as soon as you realize what you have done.

4 If you make a careless vow, no matter what it is about, you are guilty as soon as you realize what you have done.

5 When you are guilty, you must confess the sin, 6 and as the penalty for your sin you must bring to the Lord a female sheep or goat as an offering. The priest shall offer the sacrifice for your sin.

7 If you cannot afford a sheep or a goat, you shall bring to the Lord as the payment for your sin two doves or two pigeons, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. 8 You shall bring them to the priest, who will first offer the bird for the sin offering. He will break its neck without pulling off its head 9 and sprinkle some of its blood against the side of the altar. The rest of the blood will be drained out at the base of the altar. This is an offering to take away sin. 10 Then he shall offer the second bird as a burnt offering, according to the regulations. In this way the priest shall offer the sacrifice for your sin, and you will be forgiven.

11 If you cannot afford two doves or two pigeons, you shall bring two pounds of flour as a sin offering. You shall not put any olive oil or any incense on it, because it is a sin offering, not a grain offering. 12 You shall bring it to the priest, who will take a handful of it as a token that it has all been offered to the Lord, and he will burn it on the altar as a food offering. It is an offering to take away sin. 13 In this way the priest shall offer the sacrifice for your sin, and you will be forgiven. The rest of the flour belongs to the priest, just as in the case of a grain offering.

Repayment Offerings
14 The Lord gave the following regulations to Moses. 15 If any of you sin unintentionally by failing to hand over the payments that are sacred to the Lord, you shall bring as your repayment offering to the Lord a male sheep or goat without any defects. Its value is to be determined according to the official standard. 16 You must make the payments you have failed to hand over and must pay an additional 20 percent. You shall give it to the priest, and the priest shall offer the animal as a sacrifice for your sin, and you will be forgiven.

17 If any of you sin unintentionally by breaking any of the Lord's commands, you are guilty and must pay the penalty. 18 You must bring to the priest as a repayment offering a male sheep or goat without any defects. Its value is to be determined according to the official standard. The priest shall offer the sacrifice for the sin which you committed unintentionally, and you will be forgiven. 19 It is a repayment offering for the sin you committed against the Lord.


The wages of sin is death.
More sins earn you double that.
 
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The wages of sin is death.
More sins earn you double that.

This comes from another thread, one in which the OP tried to use the Susan Powell case as a bloody shirt against us. It's a common thing for critics of the church to say that Josh killing Susan is somehow "proof" that we're evil.

In reality, Susan's husband Josh hadn't been an active member of the church in several years because of pressure from Josh's father Steven, who was forever badgering Josh with anti-Mormon material and sentiment.

...When Steven wasn't perving on Susan herself, that is. Not only did Susan state that Steven had been inappropriate with her, when the police went to investigate Steven for voyeurism and illegally recording people (in particular, Steven had been caught videotaping people inside of a bathroom) they found that Susan was one of the people he'd been taping.

This discovery led to suspicion that Steven may have been the one to kill Susan and that Josh's actions were merely to protect his father. But with both Powell men dead, we'll never know, at least not in this life.

I posted plenty of information, including reports from credible news outlets like HLN and ABC, concerning Steven's arrest and trial, but it all fell on deaf ears.
 
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Yes, that thread prompted this one, I even linked to this one from it.

But, this is a separate discussion on how many sins makes one guilty before the throne of God.

The Biblical case I have given is just one sin makes one guilty before God.

So, what is the LDS position without trying to sidetrack again.

back to the question:
Who is more guilty one sin or many sins?
 
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This comes from another thread, one in which the OP tried to use the Susan Powell case as a bloody shirt against us. It's a common thing for critics of the church to say that Josh killing Susan is somehow "proof" that we're evil.

In reality, Susan's husband Josh hadn't been an active member of the church in several years because of pressure from Josh's father Steven, who was forever badgering Josh with anti-Mormon material and sentiment.

...When Steven wasn't perving on Susan herself, that is. Not only did Susan state that Steven had been inappropriate with her, when the police went to investigate Steven for voyeurism and illegally recording people (in particular, Steven had been caught videotaping people inside of a bathroom) they found that Susan was one of the people he'd been taping.

This discovery led to suspicion that Steven may have been the one to kill Susan and that Josh's actions were merely to protect his father. But with both Powell men dead, we'll never know, at least not in this life.

I posted plenty of information, including reports from credible news outlets like HLN and ABC, concerning Steven's arrest and trial, but it all fell on deaf ears.


"We" are the public who seeks forgiveness. Jesus does not call angels.
 
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Yes, that thread prompted this one, I even linked to this one from it.

But, this is a separate discussion on how many sins makes one guilty before the throne of God.

The Biblical case I have given is just one sin makes one guilty before God.

So, what is the LDS position without trying to sidetrack again.

back to the question:
Who is more guilty one sin or many sins?

Well then, it's simple:

Is what Steven Powell did wrong?

Do you believe that his being anti-Mormon over-rides his wickedness?

If yes, why?

Three questions. They're simple.
 
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Well then, it's simple:

Is what Steven Powell did wrong?

Do you believe that his being anti-Mormon over-rides his wickedness?

If yes, why?

Three questions. They're simple.
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Still waiting for the OP to declare whether or not they think a sin happened in the first place...

When the Father looks at me, He sees Jesus thus I am without sin.

So, I have heard from others. I do not know how they come to that.
 
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