The Bible says Jesus is a man not God. Show me where the Bible says Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one and the same Gods. Otherwise, what you believe is heresy.
The verse?
Deut 6:4. Read it in Hebrew.
Shma Yisrael YHVH Elohenu Adonai Echad
Hear Isreal Father Spirit Lord one
There's more:
Prov 30:4
" Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know!"
Zech 12:10
" They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son." Fulfilled in John 19:37.
Gen 1:1 Read it in the Hebrew.
Bere**** Elohiem...
Beginning Spirit... Eloheim is the plural form of Eloi.
Gen 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth,[2] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Notice it was God doing the creating, nothing else was creating. The only "us" that can create man is "God."
Need more? There are others, but I hope you can see for yourself a starter. Don't let what somebody else has told you to be that which you cling to and thus hold God in a box. Step out of your comfort zone for a while, and I'm sure God won't mind you seeking after the answers yourself and on your own. Heck, don't even take my word for it. I offer you freedom others don't - the freedom to find out the truth for yourself. If it is truth, then the truth will be evident to all who seek it - that is a promise from God: those who seek Him, find Him.
Your belief that God sent himself to earth is false and can't stand to reason.
Which is probably why the Jews in Jesus' day wanted to stone him for this blasphemy. John 10:33:
"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
We know the antichrist is to be a false Jesus, claiming everything that Jesus claimed, doing what he did, and even taking the place of Jesus as the object of people's worship.
2 Thess 2:4
"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God."
Obviously the antichrist sees a point in claiming that which Christ did for himself, otherwise there wouldn't be a need. If Satan is this clever, don't you think he would know if Jesus was God or not?
Show me a verse which says that the Holy Spirit is God
There is.
1 Cor 2:11
"who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God."
What does "in the same way" mean? Easy. The same way as a man spirit knows a man's thoughts, so does God's spirit know God's thoughts. It denotes simple logic which points to an obvious question:
Is your spirit you? If so, then God's spirit is Him.
In your earlier post, you said that "God commanded us to worship Him only." I say He did not. But instead of showing me the verse to support your allegation, you employ the standard squid tactic of Protestant pastors to divert to another topic to get out of a sticky situation. I am not even interested in your own definition of worship.
So you're saying it's alright for me to worship my car? How about a tree? Can I worship my dog? Can I worship a frog? Can I worship a leather book? You might say the only thing we can worship is that which God tells us we can worship. It's strange to me that there are only two things we are commanded to worship (all else is optional?) God, and Jesus.
For me who believes Jesus is God, this command to worship Jesus poses no problem. But if I believed Jesus was a mere man, then I would have a problem with that as that could mean any man could have done what Jesus did and thus be worthy of worship. It means that Jesus got into heaven on his own merit and not by the grace of God. It means that he wasn't anybody special...just someone who just did something special. Heck at this point it becomes even easy to dismiss the entire notion that Jesus was ever born of a virgin, and thus no longer an answer to prophecy... in fact that would mean that Jesus is a false messiah!
"We can't serve both God and money. We can't have one God and then one lesser god. No! One is the master, and the only master we can have is God. Who we worship is the ONLY one we truly worship. All others are second best."
What you are saying is your own doctrine, NOT God's. Jesus is not another god. The rest of what you are saying is not Biblical.
Not biblical? Hmmm... two seperate people, both you worship and both you claim as your master: "No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other." - wisdom of this very Jesus you worship. Luke 16:13
I agree we are to worship the Father in Spirit and in Truth, but where is it are we commanded to worship Jesus? Is it after his resurrection? After his baptism by the Holy Spirit? When? At his birth he was worshiped, and he had not yet done anything, and never was a command given to worship Jesus during that time - but it was done. This makes for an interesting point especially when it was Jesus who said "worship the Lord your God only." in Luke 4:8. Obviously if he is not God, then he would tell people to stop worshipping him. But if he is God, then it makes sense why he accepts people's worship throughout the Gospels.
Now onto another point:
God is love right? Well, a good way Arabs come to believe in God is a simple understanding that if God is love, then before anything was made or created, that love had to have a purpose for existing, for love can ONLY exist when there is something to be loved and loved by. - an existence of relationship is absolutly necessary. Now if God IS love, then his very nature is "relationship." Now the question is, what is that relationship that defines God's nature? The bible shows God demonstrating himself through three distinctable "who"s: The Father. The Spirit of God. Jesus Son of God and Son of Man.
Have a great evening, Ed!
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Ryan
(for another topic: in regards to the The Way name for the early group of believers: Acts 24:14 answers that plainly.)
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