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Who cares about the american people

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Avniel, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. Avniel

    Avniel Doing my part each day by being the best me

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    Honestly I think the funniest thing is when I see 2 americans fighting over the right wing or the left wing. Truthfully both parties do not care about the american people. The fact is all presidents cheat the books and get paid under the table, tis the nature of politics. Welfare is a system that has the ability to criple a community. Big business has no business running our country the way it does. Gay marriage is an abomination. Higher education and health care should be free. The federal reserve and social security should be destroied. The government should not give money to churches and other programs that is the communities responsiblity. Students should be allowed to pray in school however prayer should not be instructed by teachers. Sex education should be taught in public schools with knowledge of condoms(school's only purpose is education).

    Both parties are liars why are people still arguing.


    If Mitt wins the election do you think things will be any better? They will not its going to be the same as it is with Obama.


    Who really cares.
     
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  2. Rion

    Rion Annuit Cœptis Supporter

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    One will temper his behavior because he can run again. One will not.
     
  3. Avniel

    Avniel Doing my part each day by being the best me

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    If you think mitt isn't as corrupted as Obama you are sadly mistaken. The republican party is as ungodly as the democrates. They don't care about the American people if you believe that mitt's number one goal is equality I have a bridge in Brooklyn going for cheap
     
  4. Rion

    Rion Annuit Cœptis Supporter

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    ...where did you get that from? Try reading my post again.
     
  5. Creech

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    No matter who wins, things only get worse.
     
  6. Avniel

    Avniel Doing my part each day by being the best me

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    Yeah I am probably not going to waste my time and vote. I would vote for Obama but he already made history by being the first openly black president. After that politics and political parties are only for the naive to feel they have power when they don't.
     
  7. Yekcidmij

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    Would teachers and doctors still be paid? Or by "free" are we saying "paid for by the taxpayers?"

    What about people's savings, wages and income that would be completely destroyed in such a process?
     
  8. Cute Tink

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    So you agree that people should be forced to fund other people's lives, you just don't agree with how it is being done? Or is there some other aim to this position?

    That is the way things work now. No "should" needed.
     
  9. stamperben

    stamperben It's an old family tradition

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    Look, all I know is that we gotta work with what we're given. This isn't heaven on earth. But to throw up our hands and say "I give up" is to absolve yourself of any responsibility. As a Christian is that what you think Jesus expects?
     
  10. kermit

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    What does that even mean?
     
  11. Avniel

    Avniel Doing my part each day by being the best me

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    I don't see how you got that. I am anti welfare it is a system that has aided the crippling of my community. When there are generations on welfare there is an issue. I believe that it is up to the community to provide for the people in it not the government. The church should feed the poor not uncle Sam. Families should make sure new borns have diapers not government programs.

    I'm 25 and I had to bust my butt I don't think it's fair I have to dodge pot holes on the way to work. But instead of fixing the roades my money goes to single mothers and people that will probably always get government assistance. Fix the roades, hire better teachers pay the teachers more.
     
  12. Avniel

    Avniel Doing my part each day by being the best me

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    Those savings wages ect are already gone They just don't know it yet. SS does more damage then good
     
  13. GoingforGold

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    Comparing Obama to Romney from a "crook" standpoint is simply ridiculous. There is no comparison. Romney is the very type of crook that keeps America with its modern day plantations. (The ghettos and projects) At least Obama is trying to make things better. And working 10 times harder, just as most minorities must do in this crooked country.

    Obama and Romney the same? Not by a long shot. Im proud of the job he's done and with complete disrespect and obstruction from the right. If they didn't hate him so much, we'd have 2 or 3 times the amount of jobs. He's not perfect but he's not Romney and to suggest such shows a complete blindness to the facts and to reality.

    Im looking forward to 4 more years of President Obama.
     
  14. Avniel

    Avniel Doing my part each day by being the best me

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    To me it's like two different crooks. But both are crooks it's just how you prefer to get bent so to speak.
     
  15. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Would repealing term limits for presidents help the issue?
     
  16. Cute Tink

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    I get that you are anti-welfare, I just thought it was interesting that you are anti-welfare, anti-social security and anti-church funding, but pro-"free" higher education and pro-"free" health care, which are the same, just with different programs in mind.
     
  17. Avniel

    Avniel Doing my part each day by being the best me

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    I should have said but or excluding
     
  18. SharonL

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    You are wrong about your money going to single mothers. It goes to pay for the parties the GSA agency has didn't you know that - 77 parties already this year. They even paid $20,000 for drumsticks to use in one song. Now isn't that more important than the potholes in the road.
     
  19. dogs4thewin

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    If you asks me wel-fare should not be a federal or state program at all no section eight housing no food stamps, no healthcare, possibily even no higher education (though that tends to get much less abuse than the other programs). Keep in mind you are talking to someone who is both on disability and HATES it is against the idea of the check and is seeking a PRIVATE higher education.
     
  20. Archangel Horus

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    Actually, tbh, that is the single best sentence I have heard for voting for Romney. Period.
     
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