JohnR7
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Originally posted by Andrew
so how do you know that fallen angels having sex with women is not the truth?
For one thing, we know angels, we work with them. When we go to Africa, Michael heads up the Heavenly army and so we work with Michael.
Second of all, angels do not have a body like we have. They were created in Heaven. Man was made from the dust or the clay and is of the earth. As Paul says: "As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly." 1 Cor. 15:48
Angels do not reproduce themselves. As Jesus told us in the resurrection, we will receive a spiritual body and will no longer reproduce.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
The Bible makes a clear distinction between the sons of God in this verse and Satan. As you see in Job 15:19b "and no stranger passed among them." To be "among" does not mean your apart of something, but clearly distinct from it.
Fallen angels are NOT sons of God, nor can they be. Sons of God reflect God, fallen angels and fallen men do not reflect God. To be a son of God, you have to have the nature of God. You have to have love, mercy, compassion & all nine fruits of the Spirit. Most of all, you have to always do the will of God. Angels always do the will of God, and if we want to work with the angels, then we also need to always do the will of God.
Why do you think we see all the miracles and healing that we see. Because we work with the Angels. In order to work with angels, you have to always do the will of God. A house divided can not stand. Sinful people do not know angels and do not work with the angels. Esp. if their sin is rebellion against God.
Originally posted by Andrew
when something is a "son of God", it means that that thing was created directly by God
You see, that is why I have not just walked away from this thread. If we are born again, if we are a new creation in Christ, we become sons of God. So it is important that people know just what it means to be a son of God.
That takes me back to my origional question, which I never got an answer for. How can a person call themselves a pastor if they do not know what it means to be a son of God. Instead of getting an answer to my question, all I got is judged as being such and such and so and so. The Bible says, do not judge, that we are guilty of what we judge others of.
Ephes. 4:11-12 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; [12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Paul clearly says that the work of ministry is to "perfect" the saints. We are to build people up so that they become sons of God.
Ephes. 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Do you know what "unity of the faith" means? Do you know what it means to have "knowledge of the Son of God"? Or even knowledge of what it means to be a Son of God? Do you know what it means to be a "perfect man"?
I keep right on answering your questions, but no one is answering my questions. You see, everything I do here is centered on trying to show people what it means to be a son of God. Thanks, JohnR7
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