who are the seminary educated wof scholars?

[Daniel Marsh]

who are the seminary educated wof scholars?

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Why don't you ask them on Facebook?

Word of Faith Seminary


It is a little bit of a rhetorical question, though. It's a little like asking for snake handling Lutherans.

Except for the above, historically they have preferred Bible training Centers etc. All the famous WOF "doctors" received honorary doctorates from places like Oral Roberts University etc. I'm sure there are a few young people at ORU that will fit the bill for the future.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

good idea, I will try

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I never get responses on facebook to my messages. so, I went to their website and I got, www.wofcic.com refused to connect.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I did not get a response either from their business, church, seminary nor facebook site.

 

[hislegacy]

Can you name a Word of Faith Seminary?

Ive known a number who hold Masters degrees and higher from ORU, Regent University and Dallas Theological.

Why it that important to you?

BTW I hold a Masters of Divinity.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Can you name a Word of Faith Seminary?

Ive known a number who hold Masters degrees and higher from ORU, Regent University and Dallas Theological.

Why it that important to you?

BTW I hold a Masters of Divinity.

It is in one of the links. I do not remember its name.

 

[hislegacy]

It is in one of the links. I do not remember its name.

why is it an issue?

 

[Daniel Marsh]

why is it an issue?

The Bible was written in various cultures and there are some cultural influences reflected in it. It was written in as we know in Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek and translated into Latin and other early languages.
Many Christians who are uneducated in those cultures and languages misinterpret it poorly from their own culture -- esp, in the USA.

Claiming that the Holy Spirit tells us what the text means really does not work because most people are passing off their human opinions as such. Those who have been educated in Seminary clearly see the errors. Also, many Christians are guilty of Exegetical Fallacies.

Diverse groups such Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, Latter Day Saint sects, Pentecostal(who are Christians), Christadelphians, New Agers, International Bible Students, Christian Science, Unity School of Christianity, Bahai, ( in the past The Peoples Temple, Rajneesh movement, Children of God, Branch Davidians, Buddhafield, Heaven's Gate, Manson Family, and many others ), Divine Science,
Applewhite,David Koresh, Unification Church, moon, Jim Jones, some Paranormal groups, Edgar C. Whisenant, Ed Dobson, Alice A. Bailey,
Armstrong, Emanuel Swedenborg, Joanna Southcott, William Miller, Christian Israelite Church, Harold Camping, Timothy Dwight IV,
Hon-Ming Chen, The Way, United Pentecostal, Oneness, Jesus Only, Church of Bible Understanding, Forever Family, local church, witness lee, Scientology, and many many more people claimed the Holy Spirit gave them Revelations or taught them.

I know this from those in my life time, encounters with them or read their primary works when available or read books about them and from online.


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[hislegacy]

Your post makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

http://media.sabda.org/alkitab-2/PDF Books/00072 Carson Exegetical Fallacies.pdf

https://www.tms.edu/m/msj19.1.pdf

How are people destroyed from a lack of knowledge (Hosea 4:6)? | GotQuestions.org

Proverbs 1:3-8 ESV
To receive instruction in wise dealing, in righteousness, justice, and equity; to give prudence to the simple, knowledge and discretion to the youth— Let the wise hear and increase in learning, and the one who understands obtain guidance, to understand a proverb and a saying, the words of the wise and their riddles. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction. ...

Proverbs 1:7 ESV
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

John 16:13 was written to the Apostles, not all Christians from context.

II Peter 1

Proverbs 18:15 ESV
An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge.

Love God with your mind.

Many of us Christians make errors by taking verses out of context.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Your post makes no sense whatsoever.

Your post makes no sense whatsoever.

Ok lets start with the simple, it was in response to why is it an issue?
Many WOF teachers are uneducated in the below. Many claim they are taught by the Holy Spirit. Many contradict sound teachings of the past which were based on Scripture study using knowledge of the cultures and languages of the Bible.

The Bible was written in various cultures and there are some cultural influences reflected in it. It was written in as we know in Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek and translated into Latin and other early languages.
Many Christians who are uneducated in those cultures and languages misinterpret it poorly from their own culture -- esp, in the USA.

Claiming that the Holy Spirit tells us what the text means really does not work because most people are passing off their human opinions as such. Those who have been educated in Seminary clearly see the errors. Also, many Christians are guilty of Exegetical Fallacies.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

summary of last part of the post, many in false religions, and in Christian Religions claims they got revelations from the Holy Spirit or were taught by the Holy Spirit.

John 16:13 in context was given to the Apostles before the NT was written, not to all Christians of all time.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Word of Faith Seminary

Claims to be a word of faith seminary, but the link I gave to their site has been shut down by them.

 

[hislegacy]

Many WOF teachers are uneducated in the below

You are mistaken.

There are over 40,0000 Bible School graduates in the US and internationally. We have over 250 international schools also.

Because of Government issues, we choose not to be accredited through the state. But I can assure you the education received is equivalent to a Seminary.

That said, we tend to be more focused on specific subjects and less on liberal arts subjects.

You seem to be making a very wide sweeping assumption. You are mistaken.

Also, not everyone you attaches the Name Word of Faith is.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

You are mistaken.

There are over 40,0000 Bible School graduates in the US and internationally. We have over 250 international schools also.

Because of Government issues, we choose not to be accredited through the state. But I can assure you the education received is equivalent to a Seminary.

That said, we tend to be more focused on specific subjects and less on liberal arts subjects.

You seem to be making a very wide sweeping assumption. You are mistaken.

Also, not everyone you attaches the Name Word of Faith is.

From the lack of cultural knowledge of Wof teachers I have encountered I doubt that. Please, give links to those WOF Bible Colleges they attended and list the grads. If it is not accredited odds are very much against them being on a Seminary level. I have been exposed to and Lectured on Cults at many Bible Colleges and Seminaries in my life time. I do see a vast difference between those levels. The levels of questions asked by the students on basic Biblical understanding would be like the difference late Elementary Students in Public Schools And Seniors in Private Schools. At least this is my experience. Bible Schools in my experience is at best introductory knowledge.

Did you mean 40,000 or 400,000? I am assuming it was just a typo like I often do. Over how many years is your number represent?

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During the 2020–21 academic year, how many degrees are colleges and universities expected to award?

• 983,000 associate's degrees (source)
• 1,998,000 bachelor's degrees
• 833,000 master's degrees
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looking at these requirements for a Bible College, would not even come close to what was required for one of Teaching Certificates in an area of expertise.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

This would be simple, list the graduates, The College link to the catalogues.

The educational levels in Bible knowledge background I have seen from WOF Brethren is very low indeed.

I think WOF people are sincere in their belief in Christ and desire to live for him.

My original question about academic scholars among WOF really has not been answered.

Are there any WOF Bible Translators on any well known translation committees?

 

[hislegacy]

You want a list of 45,000 people?

I think the difficulty you are having is the attempt you are trying to make to match some type of Denominational Theological Seminary.

If you are sincerely interested in the level of teaching - check out

"Foundations of Pentecostal Theology" -

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[hislegacy]

Word of Faith is not a Denomination:

There is none of what you are asking for -

As for the level of education, that varies. Some have little, some hold Masters and above from different Universities. Some are very effective ministers, reaching millions - some reach their little church. Both are part of the Body of Christ.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

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