Who are the True Israelites
I am not starting this thread to start any unnecessary debates about who the true Israelites are, the scriptures are clear on this matter. I am simply trying to hear what others take is on the subject about who the true Israelites are. I am not asking you to agree with me because I want you to, but to search, pray, and fast so that you can rightly divide truth from the lies of this world. No one can worship the Creator without truth and spirit, and anyone doing so does it in vain. Please avoid letting your personal feelings interfere with the information. YHWH is not prejudiced and the spirit of truth and love reside with him.
Most scriptural student knows that although the earth belongs to YHWH, it is ruled by Satan, the adversary who is also called the devil, and we know that he has deceived the whole world, Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. As servants of YHWH, we are to have no dealings with the affairs of this world because we already know that our treasures are not here. We are not to deal with politics, love money, prejudice, hatred, wars (soldiers), or anything else, although we live here. Servants of YHWH is the opposite of what this world stands for, and everything in it! That is why they will be persecuted because they are not to be as the average person of the world.
My point is that YHWH lets us know that so that we are not seduced by the false teachings of man. We know that Egypt was the land of Ham, Psalm 105:23 "ISRAEL ALSO CAME INTO EGYPT; AND SOJOURNED IN THE LAND OF HAM (KHAWM)." , Psalms 105:27"THEY SHOWED HIS SIGNS AMONG THEM, AND WONDERS IN THE LAND OF HAM [KHAWM)." It is known and accepted that Ham's descendants are black people. Also, it is worthwhile to point out that the ancient Egyptians were a black people as science even acknowledges.
Anyway, by scripture, it shows us that the Israelites and the Egyptians were a indistinguishable people. When Joseph's ten brothers came into Egypt they were brought before him. Joseph recognized his brothers, but they didn't recognize him (Genesis 42:1-8). Also, when the great patriarch Israel (Jacob) died, even the other inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites which are also a black people decended from Cush's son Canaan, could not distinguish the Egyptians from the Israelites, Gen. 50:7-11 And Joseph went up to bury his father: and with him went up all the servants of Pharaoh, the elders of his house, and all the elders of the land of Egypt, 8And all the house of Joseph, and his brethren, and his father's house: only their little ones, and their flocks, and their herds, they left in the land of Goshen. 9And there went up with him both chariots and horsemen: and it was a very great company. 10And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: and he made a mourning for his father seven days. 11And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning in the floor of Atad, they said, This is a grievous mourning to the Egyptians: wherefore the name of it was called Abelmizraim, which is beyond Jordan. Even when the daughters of Midian were helped water their flock by Moses, they mistakenly called him an Egyptian, Ex. 2:19 And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock.
Furthermore, when Moses, a Hebrew Israelite of the tribe of Levi (exodus 2:1-3), was a child he was rescued by the Pharoah's daughter and raised up in the house as his grandson for 40 years Acts 7:23, Exodus 2: 6, 10, and the black Pharoah of Egypt did not know the difference. It stands to reason that if Pharoah knew Moses was a Hebrew, he would have killed him like all the other Hebrew males at that time. Pharoah only sought to kill Moses after it became clear that Moses was a Hebrew himself, after he had killed an Egyptian for mistreating a Hebrew, Exodus 2:12-15. Yet still we have YHWH turning Moses hand white as a miracle to the Israelites, and to show that YHWH was with the children of Israel, Exodus 4:6-7. There would be no miracle in turning the hand of a white person white. Everytime that Leprosy is mentioned in the scriptures, it is in connection with turning the skin white, Num. 12:1, Lev. 13:2-6.
Most importantly, we would do well to remember that the Israelites dwelled in a region filled with black people, Ethiopians, Canaanites, Jebusites, Amorites, Egyptians, etc., and in a region where people of lighter complexions did not fare well because they had no melanin to protect their skin from the sun.
Concerning Yahshua (Jesus), it is important to note that he was sent into Egypt for safety when Herod had ordered all Hebrew males be killed, Matt. 2:13-14. That was because Egypt was a land of blacks like Yahshua and his family, and no one could tell the difference between the Egyptians and the Hebrews. Also in the few accounts where the physical appearance of Jesus is discussed, they always compare him with dark metals and as having wooly hair, Rev. 1:14-15, His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters, Dan.7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire., and Daniel 10:6
His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
Moving on I would like to clarify myself even further, everyone who accepts Yashua and keeps the laws and commandments of the Abba can become a part of Israel no matter what color they are. By the mercy and grace of YHWH, Israel and Gentile both have a chance for salvation. We must remember that Yahshua came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it. He was the ultimate ransom and atonement for our sins, and with the shedding of his blood we no longer have to sacrifice animals, but we must still keep the laws and commandments.
I am aware of the fact that there is continuous controversy over the identity of the biblical Israelites, but if we read the scripture instead of adhereing to the doctrines of man we can discern truth from lies. In Gen. 10, we can read the table of nations, and YHWH tells us who the Gentiles are, The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. 4And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. 5By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations. Diligent research, not just my word, will support the fact that these are all lands where the people are "white". Further research will conclude righteously that the beginning of civilization lies in Africa.
Scripture also tells us that Abraham knew that his descendants would be strangers in a land where they would be oppressed for 400 yrs, Gen.15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;, and contrary to popular belief, that was not fulfilled anywhere in scripture. For the first part of Israel's sojourn in Egypt, Joseph was in good favor with the Pharoah, and not until after Joseph died, a Pharoah who had not known him enslaved Israel Ex. 1:8-11 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. 9And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we: 10Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land. 11Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses. It is without a doubt that Israel spent many years enslaved by Egypt, but not 400.
After Moses had led his people to freedom, while in the wilderness they made a convenant with YHWH Ex. 19:5,8, and was told of all the great things that would happen to them if they lived righteously Lev. 26:1-13, but they were also told of what would happen if they broke the convenant of YHWH Lev 26:14-46, and again in Deu. 28 YHWH goes over both the blessings and the curses. These blessings and cursings are put upon Israel only.
Furthermore, it was prophesied that Israel was to enter into Egypt again, this time by way of ship. Deuteronomy Chapter 28 Verse 68, which states :"And Yah shall bring you into Egypt again with SHIPS, by the way whereof I spake unto you, You shall see it no more again and there you shall be sold unto your enemies as bondmen and bondwomen and no man shall buy (redeem)you. Egypt is used as a symbol of bondage and oppression, Egypt is called The House Of Bondage (Ex 13:3,14 / 20:4,- DEUT 5:6 / 7:8 / 26:6), The Iron Furnace (DEUT 4:20), Furnace of Affliction (Isaiah 48:10), which are all synonymous with hard slavery.
It is very interesting to note that the similarities between Israels first captivity and their last captivity are striking. Israelites went into bondage several times throughout history because of their disobediance. The Ishmaelites (Arabs)sold Joseph into slavery just as they sold the Hebrews into slavery to the Americas, they both had taskmasters (overseers) set over them, both had their names changed, and both built great cities among several other similarities that are to long to discuss at this time.
Yashua was sent to the lost sheep of Israel, as we both know, and it is through Israel that all others can reach salvation. Israel was supposed to be a nation of priests that failed in it's duty by worshipping idols and practicing false religions. It was only Hebrew Israelites that were the disciples of Yahshua. They were not even allowed to go unto the other nations until they went to Israel. Israel had to know first.
Israel has had a very difficult time and fail to prosper because of their disloyalty to YHWH. As a matter of fact, they are at the bottom in every aspect in society. They are the most disease- stricken, poverty- stricken, oppressed people who still refuse to see the error of their ways and turn back to the Most High. It is time that these facts and the reasoning surrounding them are brought to the light. As I said earlier, I am not here to present these facts to make anyone feel low. We know that YHWH has set Israel forward to be an example to the other nations, but they have failed in their duty which has caused them to be scattered from one end of the earth to the other Deu. 28:64 "AND YHWH SHALL SCATTER YOU AMONG ALL PEOPLE, FROM ONE END OF THE EARTH EVEN UNTO THE OTHER; AND THERE YOU SHALL SERVE GODS WHICH NEITHER YOU NOR YOUR FATHERS HAVE KNOWN, WOOD AND STONE. That is also why they have lost their identities as a people, Deu. 28:37AND YOU SHALL BECOME AN ASTONISHMENT, A PROVERB, AND BYWORD, AMONG ALL NATIONS WHERE YHWH SHALL LEAD YOU, and,PSALM83:1-4, KEEP NOT YOUR SILENCE, O YHWH HOLD NOT YOUR PEACE, AND BE NOT STILL O YHWH.2. FOR, LO, YOUR ENEMIES MAKE A TUMULT AND THEY THAT HATE YOU HAVE LIFTED UP THE HEAD. 3 THEY HAVE TAKEN CRAFTY COUNSEL AGAINST YOUR PEOPLE, AND CONSULTED AGAINST YOUR HIDDEN ONES. 4. THEY HAVE SAID, COME LETS CUT THEM OFF FROM BEING A NATION SO THAT THE NAME OF ISRAEL MAY BE NO MORE IN REMEMBRANCE . Isn't it ironic how out of all the nations of people in the world, the "blacks" have no knowledge of who they are, or where they came from. It is like their history has been erased. YHWH says that He will put these things upon Israel for a sign and wonder always, if the children of Israel did not listen to His laws and statutes, Deu. 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: 46And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
YHWH is good and perfect in all his ways and He knows that we as a people have been utterly deceived, as a matter of fact he gave us up to our own reprobate minds, Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves. Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. The "Jews" are not who the world thinks they are, Rev. 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan, and Rev. 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Who will be a servant of YHWH to do as he wants, and who will reach salvation through the spirit and truth that is in Him?
I am not starting this thread to start any unnecessary debates about who the true Israelites are, the scriptures are clear on this matter. I am simply trying to hear what others take is on the subject about who the true Israelites are. I am not asking you to agree with me because I want you to, but to search, pray, and fast so that you can rightly divide truth from the lies of this world. No one can worship the Creator without truth and spirit, and anyone doing so does it in vain. Please avoid letting your personal feelings interfere with the information. YHWH is not prejudiced and the spirit of truth and love reside with him.
Most scriptural student knows that although the earth belongs to YHWH, it is ruled by Satan, the adversary who is also called the devil, and we know that he has deceived the whole world, Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. As servants of YHWH, we are to have no dealings with the affairs of this world because we already know that our treasures are not here. We are not to deal with politics, love money, prejudice, hatred, wars (soldiers), or anything else, although we live here. Servants of YHWH is the opposite of what this world stands for, and everything in it! That is why they will be persecuted because they are not to be as the average person of the world.
My point is that YHWH lets us know that so that we are not seduced by the false teachings of man. We know that Egypt was the land of Ham, Psalm 105:23 "ISRAEL ALSO CAME INTO EGYPT; AND SOJOURNED IN THE LAND OF HAM (KHAWM)." , Psalms 105:27"THEY SHOWED HIS SIGNS AMONG THEM, AND WONDERS IN THE LAND OF HAM [KHAWM)." It is known and accepted that Ham's descendants are black people. Also, it is worthwhile to point out that the ancient Egyptians were a black people as science even acknowledges.
Anyway, by scripture, it shows us that the Israelites and the Egyptians were a indistinguishable people. When Joseph's ten brothers came into Egypt they were brought before him. Joseph recognized his brothers, but they didn't recognize him (Genesis 42:1-8). Also, when the great patriarch Israel (Jacob) died, even the other inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites which are also a black people decended from Cush's son Canaan, could not distinguish the Egyptians from the Israelites, Gen. 50:7-11 And Joseph went up to bury his father: and with him went up all the servants of Pharaoh, the elders of his house, and all the elders of the land of Egypt, 8And all the house of Joseph, and his brethren, and his father's house: only their little ones, and their flocks, and their herds, they left in the land of Goshen. 9And there went up with him both chariots and horsemen: and it was a very great company. 10And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: and he made a mourning for his father seven days. 11And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning in the floor of Atad, they said, This is a grievous mourning to the Egyptians: wherefore the name of it was called Abelmizraim, which is beyond Jordan. Even when the daughters of Midian were helped water their flock by Moses, they mistakenly called him an Egyptian, Ex. 2:19 And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock.
Furthermore, when Moses, a Hebrew Israelite of the tribe of Levi (exodus 2:1-3), was a child he was rescued by the Pharoah's daughter and raised up in the house as his grandson for 40 years Acts 7:23, Exodus 2: 6, 10, and the black Pharoah of Egypt did not know the difference. It stands to reason that if Pharoah knew Moses was a Hebrew, he would have killed him like all the other Hebrew males at that time. Pharoah only sought to kill Moses after it became clear that Moses was a Hebrew himself, after he had killed an Egyptian for mistreating a Hebrew, Exodus 2:12-15. Yet still we have YHWH turning Moses hand white as a miracle to the Israelites, and to show that YHWH was with the children of Israel, Exodus 4:6-7. There would be no miracle in turning the hand of a white person white. Everytime that Leprosy is mentioned in the scriptures, it is in connection with turning the skin white, Num. 12:1, Lev. 13:2-6.
Most importantly, we would do well to remember that the Israelites dwelled in a region filled with black people, Ethiopians, Canaanites, Jebusites, Amorites, Egyptians, etc., and in a region where people of lighter complexions did not fare well because they had no melanin to protect their skin from the sun.
Concerning Yahshua (Jesus), it is important to note that he was sent into Egypt for safety when Herod had ordered all Hebrew males be killed, Matt. 2:13-14. That was because Egypt was a land of blacks like Yahshua and his family, and no one could tell the difference between the Egyptians and the Hebrews. Also in the few accounts where the physical appearance of Jesus is discussed, they always compare him with dark metals and as having wooly hair, Rev. 1:14-15, His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters, Dan.7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire., and Daniel 10:6
His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
Moving on I would like to clarify myself even further, everyone who accepts Yashua and keeps the laws and commandments of the Abba can become a part of Israel no matter what color they are. By the mercy and grace of YHWH, Israel and Gentile both have a chance for salvation. We must remember that Yahshua came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it. He was the ultimate ransom and atonement for our sins, and with the shedding of his blood we no longer have to sacrifice animals, but we must still keep the laws and commandments.
I am aware of the fact that there is continuous controversy over the identity of the biblical Israelites, but if we read the scripture instead of adhereing to the doctrines of man we can discern truth from lies. In Gen. 10, we can read the table of nations, and YHWH tells us who the Gentiles are, The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. 4And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. 5By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations. Diligent research, not just my word, will support the fact that these are all lands where the people are "white". Further research will conclude righteously that the beginning of civilization lies in Africa.
Scripture also tells us that Abraham knew that his descendants would be strangers in a land where they would be oppressed for 400 yrs, Gen.15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;, and contrary to popular belief, that was not fulfilled anywhere in scripture. For the first part of Israel's sojourn in Egypt, Joseph was in good favor with the Pharoah, and not until after Joseph died, a Pharoah who had not known him enslaved Israel Ex. 1:8-11 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. 9And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we: 10Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land. 11Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses. It is without a doubt that Israel spent many years enslaved by Egypt, but not 400.
After Moses had led his people to freedom, while in the wilderness they made a convenant with YHWH Ex. 19:5,8, and was told of all the great things that would happen to them if they lived righteously Lev. 26:1-13, but they were also told of what would happen if they broke the convenant of YHWH Lev 26:14-46, and again in Deu. 28 YHWH goes over both the blessings and the curses. These blessings and cursings are put upon Israel only.
Furthermore, it was prophesied that Israel was to enter into Egypt again, this time by way of ship. Deuteronomy Chapter 28 Verse 68, which states :"And Yah shall bring you into Egypt again with SHIPS, by the way whereof I spake unto you, You shall see it no more again and there you shall be sold unto your enemies as bondmen and bondwomen and no man shall buy (redeem)you. Egypt is used as a symbol of bondage and oppression, Egypt is called The House Of Bondage (Ex 13:3,14 / 20:4,- DEUT 5:6 / 7:8 / 26:6), The Iron Furnace (DEUT 4:20), Furnace of Affliction (Isaiah 48:10), which are all synonymous with hard slavery.
It is very interesting to note that the similarities between Israels first captivity and their last captivity are striking. Israelites went into bondage several times throughout history because of their disobediance. The Ishmaelites (Arabs)sold Joseph into slavery just as they sold the Hebrews into slavery to the Americas, they both had taskmasters (overseers) set over them, both had their names changed, and both built great cities among several other similarities that are to long to discuss at this time.
Yashua was sent to the lost sheep of Israel, as we both know, and it is through Israel that all others can reach salvation. Israel was supposed to be a nation of priests that failed in it's duty by worshipping idols and practicing false religions. It was only Hebrew Israelites that were the disciples of Yahshua. They were not even allowed to go unto the other nations until they went to Israel. Israel had to know first.
Israel has had a very difficult time and fail to prosper because of their disloyalty to YHWH. As a matter of fact, they are at the bottom in every aspect in society. They are the most disease- stricken, poverty- stricken, oppressed people who still refuse to see the error of their ways and turn back to the Most High. It is time that these facts and the reasoning surrounding them are brought to the light. As I said earlier, I am not here to present these facts to make anyone feel low. We know that YHWH has set Israel forward to be an example to the other nations, but they have failed in their duty which has caused them to be scattered from one end of the earth to the other Deu. 28:64 "AND YHWH SHALL SCATTER YOU AMONG ALL PEOPLE, FROM ONE END OF THE EARTH EVEN UNTO THE OTHER; AND THERE YOU SHALL SERVE GODS WHICH NEITHER YOU NOR YOUR FATHERS HAVE KNOWN, WOOD AND STONE. That is also why they have lost their identities as a people, Deu. 28:37AND YOU SHALL BECOME AN ASTONISHMENT, A PROVERB, AND BYWORD, AMONG ALL NATIONS WHERE YHWH SHALL LEAD YOU, and,PSALM83:1-4, KEEP NOT YOUR SILENCE, O YHWH HOLD NOT YOUR PEACE, AND BE NOT STILL O YHWH.2. FOR, LO, YOUR ENEMIES MAKE A TUMULT AND THEY THAT HATE YOU HAVE LIFTED UP THE HEAD. 3 THEY HAVE TAKEN CRAFTY COUNSEL AGAINST YOUR PEOPLE, AND CONSULTED AGAINST YOUR HIDDEN ONES. 4. THEY HAVE SAID, COME LETS CUT THEM OFF FROM BEING A NATION SO THAT THE NAME OF ISRAEL MAY BE NO MORE IN REMEMBRANCE . Isn't it ironic how out of all the nations of people in the world, the "blacks" have no knowledge of who they are, or where they came from. It is like their history has been erased. YHWH says that He will put these things upon Israel for a sign and wonder always, if the children of Israel did not listen to His laws and statutes, Deu. 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: 46And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
YHWH is good and perfect in all his ways and He knows that we as a people have been utterly deceived, as a matter of fact he gave us up to our own reprobate minds, Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves. Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. The "Jews" are not who the world thinks they are, Rev. 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan, and Rev. 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Who will be a servant of YHWH to do as he wants, and who will reach salvation through the spirit and truth that is in Him?
