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Who’ll be tempted after the 1000 years?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by ItalianStallion, Sep 14, 2018.

  1. Hazelelponi

    Hazelelponi Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I would call it worse than unsafe but that's me.

    At any rate, it's gaining popularity. I think they are estimating some 10-15 million Protestants believe in it in the U.S... and that number is growing.
     
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  2. HTacianas

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    The interpretation of Rev 20 as a literal one thousand year reign of Christ on the earth has not been a teaching of Christianity since the fourth century.
     
  3. joshua 1 9

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    Zechariah talks about Nations that do not attend the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem: "the rain will not fall on them".

    Zechariah 14:16 All Nations will Worship the King
    16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, the rain will not fall on them.
     
  4. dysert

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    Summary:

    At the Second Coming, there will be the Sheep & Goats judgment. The Sheep (Christians) will enter the Millennium with the Lord. The Goats (the lost) will be destroyed. So at the beginning of the Millennium, there will be only saved people.

    These saved people will have children, families. As always, these new souls will have to accept Christ to be saved. Many will, but many won't either. After 1000 years of population growth, there will be a whole lot of people alive who haven't accepted Christ. These are the ones that Satan will round up for the attack on Jerusalem.
     
  5. ewq1938

    ewq1938 I'm finna mispell gonna. Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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    Again, nothing you say here is actually true. The Millennium of Rev 20 has been taught since John first showed it to others. It was Amil that sprang up as a mis-interpretation of the passage.

    http://www.ldolphin.org/premillhist.html

     
  6. ewq1938

    ewq1938 I'm finna mispell gonna. Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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    That's not what the end of Rev 2 says.



    Christ said there was no marriages (which means no childbirth) after the resurrection so you are incorrect about the saved having children.
     
  7. Dave L

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    “Now this is what I am saying, brothers and sisters: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.” (1 Corinthians 15:50)

    This means only saints in glorified bodies would inhabit an earthly millennium if there were one. And this would leave Satan using many of them to attack the rest when loosed when the 1000 years end.

    The solution is that there is no physical millennium ever to be. But all of Revelation 20 is taking place now in the spiritual realm. and when Satan is loosed, (I believe this is presently happening), massive deception will attack the truth held by the church on a world wide basis.
     
  8. Blade

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    Rev 20 seems pretty clear to me. Satan is bound for 1000y..someone is going to be running around with Christ for some time. SOME need to search more.. this has been talked about since John wrote it.

    People will have kids and those kids as someone said will receive Christ or not. "Marriages" "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven." This 1000y is on earth. Whats the "resurrection" mean then? :) No where does Rev 20 even hint at resurrection.

    See its like this FOR ME <---ME.. say Churchis gone. Trib is over. Christ sets foot on the earth He then gathers the nations "sheep/goats". After thats over at some point Satan is locked up then they would be with Christ 1000y+.

    So "ItalianStallion" no.. after this life you go right to the Father as it is written. What your asking about is people that are still here on the earth. No new bodies. Its almost like what Israel has been waiting for. Well they asked Christ before He rose.. are you now going to rule with a iron rod?

    When we have to speculate ..its not wise.. its ok but that is NOT the word. Take it as its written and pray and ask the sweet sweet Holy Spirit to tell you. He is REAL.. He talks.. just like He did in the NT "holy Spirit said" "As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said," Acts..

    Christ is IN YOU.. AWESOME praise GOD GLORY TO JESUS! Its what HE says that matters. And He will back it up with whats written. so you KNOW its Him. Always TEST the spirits.. we are washed by the BLOOD of the lamb.. only HE can say that...no other spirit can
     
  9. dysert

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    I am quite familiar with Rev. Can you tell me what specifically in the end of Rev 2 says that makes you disagree with my summary.




    He said there were no marriages *in heaven*. This topic is talking about the Millennium (which is not the same thing).
     
  10. ewq1938

    ewq1938 I'm finna mispell gonna. Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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    It says the nations will be ruled over by the overcomers which means there are people alive in the Millennium who are not saved.

    Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
    Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
    Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.





    He didn't say no marriages *in heaven*

    Mat_22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

    Those resurrected will reign with Christ on the Earth and will not marry which means no childbirth for immortals.

    Rev_5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
     
  11. Blade

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    I understand and can see different points of views...kinda lol. Unless this happens SOON.. I wont be here for it. TIME.. I wonder really do if our Father knows how to tell time. 1 day is like 1000y. So Christ "coming soon". That was over 2000y ago..or just over 2 days now.

    Point is.. Satan locked up..then loosed for a short time.. SHORT TIME? Christ was COMING SOON! How long will that short time be? Lol...just want PEOPLE SAVE HELLO! But.. also want it to be over.

    I think people got millennium (not searched much on this) from Satan being bound 1000Y?
     
  12. ItalianStallion

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    So believers in Christ, after we die in our earthly bodies, are in the Book of Life and immune from satan's second temptation?
     
  13. dysert

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    Isn't that what I said?

    I'm not going to start a study on this topic. Suffice to say that it does not mean there will not be children born during the Millennium.
     
  14. ewq1938

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    There will be no children born to anyone who is immortal. It doesn't comment on if the unsaved have children of not.
     
  15. dreadnought

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    I believe we will always have random thoughts that could tempt us, if we don't learn to resist temptation.
     
  16. AlexDTX

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    As I understand it, during the millennial reign of Christ, the Church will already be transformed into perfection that can never sin again. However, there will be multitudes of ordinary people who will survive the battle of Armageddon, who, because Jesus will rule with a rod of iron, will not sin, and will live for centuries in perfect peace. Israel will offer temple sacrifices for the nations (not the Church) in Ezekiel's temple to teach the people the meaning of sin. Nonetheless, Satan must be released because even in that perfect environment many will prefer sin over righteousness. They will join Satan then face the White Throne judgment. However, I believe, there will also be many who reject Satan because they understood the Temple teaching as types of Christ and will be added to the body of Christ, too. However, I have no Scriptural proof. This is just my gut feeling.
     
  17. NW82

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    Revelation 20:6. Check your bible first.
     
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    So many people saying they "know" what it really means, and yet the text (without adding or changing the words) is very clear. If you choose to dismiss it, that's your problem.
     
  19. HTacianas

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    I already did.

    Now if we can, which of the original Churches teach the idea of a future millennium?
     
  20. ewq1938

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    There is no "original church" except Christianity itself. Any church teaching that the Millennium is not future is teaching falsely. Look around, Satan is deceiving the nations right now so we know this isn't the Millennium and that's one thing out of many that proves the Mil is not now.
     
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