Furthermore, it has not been demonstrated the words "inner-city" and "poor" used in conjunction are "commonly and historically" references to blacks.
LOL. Sorry. I don't know if I can take you seriously anymore.
Which means absolutely freaking nothing, unless we make the untenable assumption, as you do, that the name "Charles Murray" is code for racist language.
Well Charles Murray
has his own page on the Southern Poverty Law Center. Right -->
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Here's what they say about him:
SPLC said:
Charles Murray, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, has become one of the most influential social scientists in America, using racist pseudoscience and misleading statistics to argue that social inequality is caused by the genetic inferiority of the black and Latino communities, women and the poor. According to Murray, disadvantaged groups are disadvantaged because, on average, they cannot compete with white men, who are intellectually, psychologically and morally superior. Murray advocates the total elimination of the welfare state, affirmative action and the Department of Education, arguing that public policy cannot overcome the innate deficiencies that cause unequal social and educational outcomes.
Now as for what Charles Murray
himself says how 'bout these gems:
Try to imagine a
presidential candidate saying in front of the cameras, One reason that we still have poverty in the United States is that a lot of poor people are born lazy. You cannot imagine it because that kind of thing cannot be said. And yet this unimaginable statement merely implies that when we know the complete genetic story, it will turn out that the population below the poverty line in the United States has a configuration of the relevant genetic makeup that is significantly different from the configuration of the population above the poverty line. This is not unimaginable. It is almost certainly true.
Deeper Into the Brain,
National Review, 2000
The professional consensus is that the United States has experienced dysgenic pressures throughout either most of the century (the optimists) or all of the century (the pessimists). Women of all races and ethnic groups follow this pattern in similar fashion. There is some evidence that blacks and Latinos are experiencing even more severe dysgenic pressures than whites, which could lead to further divergence between whites and other groups in future generations.
The Bell Curve, 1994
LOL. I'd say that citing Charles Murray as a preface to a later point carries a LOT of freight with it.
However, it is a rather ridiculous proposition that the name "Charles Murray" is code for racist language.
Well, perhaps you weren't paying attention when the Bell Curve was making a lot of waves. You can google it some time.
No, this is a "clear case" of you personally attributing a racist meaning or racist assoiciation to the name "Charles Murray"
An attribution
made rather clearly in the cited link above. In addition, I recall the discussions around the book "The Bell Curve".
If you don't, by all means google it.
and then imposing your meaning or association onto other people.
Did I make the Southern Poverty Law Center write that about Dr. Murray???
This is a clear case of you personally looking for "code words" you personally associate with racist language
Or having a long term memory going back 20 years.
But look, I'm not the one talking about "dysgenic pressures" being worse for minorities like Dr. Murray did.
(Go ahead and google "dysgenic" if you like).
and upon finding them alleging, on the basis of your own personal word associations, attribute a covert racist message to Paul Ryan.
Well clearly Paul Ryan
self-associates with the writings of Dr. Murray.
I didn't make Paul say it.
Otherwise, there has not been presented any "clear case" of Paul Ryan referring to blacks.
Of course not!
More speculative non-sense. Your posts are inundanted with speculation, guesses
Well, you are correct there. I am making guesses. INFORMED guesses based on the verbiage Mr. Ryan used and his own self-association with the writings of a racist researcher.
I'm doing what anyone who isn't being willfully blind would do. I'm not making excuses for Mr. Ryan. I don't have to.
, of what is clear to other people or to society. You do not have, at this moment, the slightest freaking clue of how people over 15 perceive Charles Murray. You are just pawning off your speculation and guessing of how people over 15 perceive Charles Murray as fact.
Again, I can remember 1994. Maybe you can't? And I can read. And the SLPC would seem to find more to be concerned about Dr. Murray than you do.
That is your prerogative, but it sure does seem like you are having to make LOTS of excuses for more and more people.
It hasn't been established Murray is "well associated with racial politics," another factual assertion by you with no facts to support it.
You are technically incorrect. I have now given the SLPC link
twice. I presented facts which were available for any and all to read.
In addition HISTORY (a la 1994-1995) are there for anyone who was awake during that time.
Neither has it been shown that the words "inner-city" and "poor" are "commonly used to reference minorities and African Americans".
Ooopsy! You are again in error:
at no point have I said "poor" was synonymous with african americans.
Your bad!
There are no facts to support either factual assertion. You are skilled at making factual assertions without having any facts to support them.
To be fair, I provided facts. You simply chose to ignore them.
What your position ignores, once again, is perhaps someone is capable of citing Charles Murray without making a racist comment. Yes, it is true someone can refer to Charles Murray, even if he is a racist, without making a racist comment.
Well, when one makes a comment
about poverty and social ills and associates the comments with Dr. Murray that makes it far more likely to be a racist statement precisely because that has been the focus of Dr. Murray's research in the Bell Curve and other writings.
What is "historically and commonly" is your repeated use of both words with no facts in support for your position.
You aren't American? You have never heard that?
So what do you think the phrase "White Flight" meant?
Do you think it was driving of snow from the inner cities???
LOL. Your position is hilariously pedantic. But you keep on with it! Good for you!
None. There are no facts to show either has been "historically" or "commonly" used in the manner you attribute to them.
As loathe as I am to cite Wikipedia I will help you (because you are clearly new to the US and have never heard this phrase before):
The
inner city is the central area of a
major city or
metropolis. In the
United States,
Canada, the
United Kingdom, and
Ireland, the term is often a
euphemism applied to the lower-income residential districts in the
city centre and nearby areas.
In the United States, the term has the additional connotation of impoverished black and/or Hispanic neighborhoods.
...
The peculiar American sociological usage is rooted in the middle 20th century. When automobiles became affordable in the United States and
forced busing ensued, many middle and high-income residents, who were mostly white, moved to suburbs to have larger lots and houses, and a lower crime rate.
(I've outlined in RED the key points you may have never heard before. It is quite common parlance in the US.
(Oh, btw, welcome to America! Are you on a green card?)
Not an ad hominem since I'm not leveraging simply attacking Mr. Ryan because of who he is rather than the content of his comment. It is further not an ad hominem since my POINT was to provide you with an alternative (in fact about the only alternative I can imagine) for why a PUBLIC SPEAKER addressing the US AUDIENCE would fail to realize his phrases were freighted with racist overtones.
I'm more than willing to accept that Paul Ryan knows less than a 5th grader when talking in public if that is what you want for him. But in reality I doubt that very highly.
I have an alternate suggestion. Quite simply, Paul Ryan does not attribute the same meaning to the words "inner city" and "poor" as you do.
To be fair, he would then not be attributing a rather common meaning to the phrase over the last 50-60 years of US history.
But again, if Paul is that ill-adept at public speaking then you can have it your way. I assumed he was smarter than that (considering WE ALL PAID for his college education, him being a recipient of social security money).
Or maybe your unsupported claim both words have "historically and commonly" been used to refer to Blacks is false!
Welcome to America! You'll enjoy it here. But you'll have to learn the language first!
Par for the course! You speculate what most people know, you speculate as to what is common knowledge, you allege historical facts, you claim something is "common," and here you presume to know something about my life regarding racism.
So what do you think the associated term "White Flight" meant?
