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White people are poor because of their culture

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by stamperben, Mar 23, 2014.

  1. stamperben

    stamperben It's an old family tradition

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    White people are poor because of their culture
    Paul Ryan has been in trouble recently because of his comments about the “inner city” poor and their culture of laziness and dependency. Ryan’s courage in standing up to the PC Nazis is admirable. His stand may finally open up the potential for Americans to confront poverty without hiding behind euphemisms or dodging uncomfortable facts.
    Thanks to Rep. Ryan, we may at last be able to confront the last taboo in political correctness. We may finally be able to address the culture of poverty that keeps white people poor.
    Take it and do with it what you will.
     
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  2. HannahT

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    When did the term 'inner city' change to mean only black people is my question!

    We have people from every corner of the globe here. Its never meant 'only black' before, and I guess I missed it when it changed to be honest.

    :confused:

    Is there a new term I missed that included everyone now? If so, what is it? I'm perfectly serious here too!

    (sorry if that is off topic)
     
  3. MikeCarra

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    Such sweet naivete! You may have missed it in the 1960's when SUBURBS were being developed there was a thing called "white flight" leaving MANY inner city areas largely african American.

    Most people over the age of 30 have heard about this. It was a real thing.

    Only recently have whites started moving back into the inner city in large numbers, usually in a form of "gentrification" (a term almost no one uses for african americans moving into a neighborhood).

    Now, obviously you are quite young and may be completely unaware of the fact that even today the inner cities are populated more by minorities. And you ask a reasonable question for a newborn babe to the planet earth.

    It is quite painful to see someone dodging the kind of rhetoric the Right partakes of because we ALL know what was meant. We do! We are NOT IDIOTS, despite what the GOP and Tea Party would have us think.

    I assume that Paul Ryan is somewhat older and probably knows the score. He KNEW what he was saying. And if was thinking about whites or non-minorities when he said it, he should have made that clear....because almost NO ONE ON EARTH means that when they utter "inner city" and "poor" in the same sentence.

    Welcome to earth!
     
  4. MikeCarra

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    Nice article. But it also fails to discuss the White Society's penchant for rampant crime and victimization!

    Point to the man who hurt you:

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    Which one is MORE LIKELY to hurt you and bad in a lasting way? :)
     
  5. Boondock_Saint

    Boondock_Saint Go Cubs!!!!

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    I agree Stamperban. People are poor because of poor choices. One generation effects the next. When I was 18, I was homeless, broke, and uneducated. Look at me now. The cycle was broken in just (1) generation. My children will be debt free and educated because of the choices I made at a young age before they were ever a twinkle in my eye.

    Perhaps we should take a look at laziness in our society. It is after all very prevalent.
     
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  6. ThatRobGuy

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    I agree...

    I think a more accurate statement would be that 2nd & 3rd generation welfare recipients are poor because of their culture.

    In the other thread pertaining to Paul Ryan's statement, I linked data from a report from the Washington DC area that showed that less then 1/4 welfare recipients were meeting their obligations for receiving their check (mandatory community service and/or job applications), yet continued to receive them.

    ...if kids see that mom & dad get the check in the mail, and then blow off the responsibilities that are supposed to be tied to that check, it doesn't exactly foster a culture of responsibility.

    D.C. struggles to meet welfare work requirements | WashingtonExaminer.com

    Only about one in five D.C. welfare recipients able to work did the necessary job searching required by law to be eligible for government payments in fiscal year 2012, according to Mayor Vincent Gray's budget proposal.

    Those requirements can include job training classes or participating in community service activities.

    Just 22 percent of welfare recipients whose cases are managed by private vendors -- a majority of those receiving federal funding in the District who have been determined eligible to work, according to the D.C. Fiscal Policy Institute -- met federal guidelines. That's even lower than the District's 26 percent target.
     
  7. stamperben

    stamperben It's an old family tradition

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    Wow! There isn't 2nd and 3rd generation poverty in Appalachia? There isn't a drug epidemic in the hills of Tennessee?
     
  8. Jeffwhosoever

    Jeffwhosoever Faithful Servant Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Another thread on racism started by a liberal. Gee, why am I not shocked?
     
  9. MikeCarra

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    For liberals racism isn't a way of life like it is for Conservatives for whom it is second nature.

    That's why it is still "novel" to us!
     
  10. Fireball1244

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    Shia LeBeouf, obviously. The scars from "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" may never heal.
     
  11. PreachersWife2004

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    What cracks me up is there's posters here who are thanking Obama over and over and over because Wall Street has been doing well, meaning people like the guy in the picture above (yes, duh, I know who he is) are the ones benefiting.

    But, to answer your question honestly, the guy in the picture I deleted looks A LOT like the guys who continually robbed our house when we lived in Detroit. THAT hurt us more than any stock shark.
     
  12. ThatRobGuy

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    If you'll notice in the picture, he got his coffee from Dunkin Donuts...he must not be making THAT much money...
     
  13. katherine2001

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    Maybe he likes their coffee the best. Also quite a few wealthy people are misers and don't like spending more money than they absolutely have to.
     
  14. iluvatar5150

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    Lol. I don't mind Dunkin's coffee, but serving it in a styrofoam cup should be a crime.
     
  15. iluvatar5150

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    From the stock brokers and other financial guys I've known/talked to, no. Those guys like to spend money.
     
  16. Ana the Ist

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    Reminds me of the Reagan lies about "welfare queens". It's been the hot strategy for conservatives for the past four years. A strategy of repeating myth after myth about those who are on welfare or food stamps until the entire conservative base is singing the same tune. People on welfare are lazy! Most people on welfare don't want to work! The government wants everyone to be dependent upon them so they keep voting democrats in office! Welfare doesn't actually help anyone....after all, there's still poverty! And so on until even the conservatives on welfare are agreeing with them. The great hypocrisy in this is whenever a democrat speaks about "corporate welfare", "fixing tax loopholes for the rich", or "paying your fair share"....suddenly the conservatives start crying about "class warfare".

    It's about time someone makes a thread dispelling all these right wing lies about the social safety nets in our society. I really thought someone would've made it by now, but since it hasn't happened...look for mine soon.
     
  17. Armoured

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    I was laid of twice during the GFC, as was my wife. If not for my exceptionally supportive father, who carried us for 6 months, we would have lost everything. In the past, I've had a car stolen and our house broken into, but even if we hadn't been insured, that didn't hurt us nearly as much as what the bankers did.
     
  18. MikeCarra

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    To be fair to Shia LaBoef, I didn't realize this was HIM when I selected the picture! I was looking for a picture of a Wall Street Trader.

    Still...Shia IS scary....

    Just sayin'...
     
  19. ThatRobGuy

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    I'll re-post mine from earlier...

    In the other thread pertaining to Paul Ryan's statement, I linked data from a report from the Washington DC area that showed that less then 1/4 welfare recipients were meeting their obligations for receiving their check (mandatory community service and/or job applications), yet continued to receive them.

    ...if kids see that mom & dad get the check in the mail, and then blow off the responsibilities that are supposed to be tied to that check, it doesn't exactly foster a culture of responsibility.

    D.C. struggles to meet welfare work requirements | WashingtonExaminer.com

    Only about one in five D.C. welfare recipients able to work did the necessary job searching required by law to be eligible for government payments in fiscal year 2012, according to Mayor Vincent Gray's budget proposal.

    Those requirements can include job training classes or participating in community service activities.

    Just 22 percent of welfare recipients whose cases are managed by private vendors -- a majority of those receiving federal funding in the District who have been determined eligible to work, according to the D.C. Fiscal Policy Institute -- met federal guidelines. That's even lower than the District's 26 percent target.


    While the "conservative lie", as you put it, about "all welfare collectors being lazy and not wanting to work" might be a slight exaggeration, to pretend that there isn't a problem with the welfare system is equally naïve for liberals to believe.

    As noted, there are places in this country where less than 1/4 actually meet the obligations (searching for a job, community service, or free job training), that means the other 3/4 that are collecting (that are able to work), simply collect the check, and give the government the finger when it comes time to hold up their end of the deal.

    As I mentioned in the other thread, I don't know what's more sad, the fact that only 22 percent of people receiving free money hold up their end of the deal...or the fact that the district's goal is 26%. If you're giving someone free money, I would expect the goal to be somewhere around 90%.
     
  20. Creech

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    A lot of Anti-Southern hate in that article.
     
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