White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says

[disciple Clint]

Rumor has it that Barrack Obama's name won't be found on the 2020 ballot so what is the underlying strategy that would justify Trump supporters resorting to this extraneous issue - just like their attacks on Biden's mental fitness, its a reflection of the dwindling number of issues that are available to Republicans when mounting a presidential campaign!

sometimes when people attack Trump it becomes necessary to provide a comparison just for the sake of honest perspective.

 

[Radagast]

White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says

It is quite possible that this NIH-funded research in Wuhan led to an accidental release of virus that caused the current pandemic.

 

[disciple Clint]

It is quite possible that this NIH-funded research in Wuhan led to an accidental release of virus that caused the current pandemic.

That would explain the defunding.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

dont do a serious job of checking out the facts just write a story that blames Trump.

And the blind will follow.
M

 

[Bobber]

Sorry, "the fact-checkers are all lying, too" isn't going to fly. At some point, you're going to have to face the facts.

So Barbarian do you base everything you believe on your fact-checkers? Do you not do any investigation yourself?

 

[The Barbarian]

White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says
The research was the target of a conspiracy theory about the origin of the new coronavirus.
White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says

[quote[disciple Clint said: ↑
Do you want to go back and read all the things that Obama lied about[/quote]

I'm thinking you probably should deal with the topic at hand. Or do you just want to avoid the topic and present a diversion?

I responded to your posts which were off topic,

Sorry, but "how much I hate the fact that Obama was a highly-respected president" isn't the topic. Try to address the actual one, or perhaps start a new thread on your issues.

 

[The Barbarian]

Trump supporters resorting to this extraneous issue - just like their attacks on Biden's mental fitness, its a reflection of the dwindling number of issues that are available to Republicans when mounting a presidential campaign!

Right now, they seem to be frantically throwing up one smear attempt after another, hoping something will stick. Reeks of fear and desperation.

Some of them backfired badly; the "cognitive decline" issue is now sticking to Trump like ugly on an ape.

 

[The Barbarian]

So Barbarian do you base everything you believe on your fact-checkers?

So do you just make up silly ideas and suggest other people believe them? Don't you realize what that kind of thing sounds like to other people?

Fact checks are useful only to the degree that they provide links and sources to check for yourself. Otherwise, it's just someone's unsupported opinion. Do you not do any investigation yourself?

Here's a hint: Whenever someone tells you something you really, really want to be true, that is exactly when you need to be most skeptical. That's when you are easiest to fool.

If you follow that, it will save you a lot of embarrassment.

 

[Bobber]

Right now, they seem to be frantically throwing up one smear attempt after another, hoping something will stick. Reeks of fear and desperation.

Yes politics many times is an ugly thing. Never seen really any one party or candidate not really hesitating to do what you said above. Hyperbole is always the name of the game when it comes to creating influence and even your claim that things are done out of desperation falls in line with that too.

 

[tulc]

It is quite possible that this NIH-funded research in Wuhan led to an accidental release of virus that caused the current pandemic.

or not:
Scientists: 'Exactly zero' evidence COVID-19 came from a lab

Scientists: 'Exactly zero' evidence COVID-19 came from a lab

tulc(interesting article)

 

[The Barbarian]

Yes politics many times is an ugly thing. Never seen really any one party or candidate not really hesitating to do what you said above. Hyperbole is always the name of the game when it comes to creating influence and even your claim that things are done out of desperation falls in line with that too.

Comes down to evidence:

President Trump’s allies are urging him to change his tone and key figures in the campaign’s orbit are pointing fingers over who is to blame for the president’s spiraling poll numbers with just over four months to go until Election Day.

There is frustration in Trump World over the president's lack of discipline and his confrontational tone during a time of high anxiety over the coronavirus and civil unrest around the death of George Floyd while in police custody.

Some Trump allies are worried that campaign manager Brad Parscale is in over his head. And there is sniping between pro-Trump outside groups about whether their money is best spent propping up Trump or tearing down presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

Ed Rollins, the chairman of the Great America PAC, a top outside group supporting the president’s reelection, said the course correction starts with Trump. He said the president faces certain defeat if he does not convey more compassion and focus on a message that expands his coalition to include women and independents.

“The message is weak or nonexistent. The rambling on about Biden and Pelosi or Clinton and Obama is old and tired. This needs to be about the future, not the past,” Rollins said.
Trump World boils over as campaign hits skids

(warning: one mild profanity by Trump supporter at link)

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Comes down to evidence:

President Trump’s allies are urging him to change his tone and key figures in the campaign’s orbit are pointing fingers over who is to blame for the president’s spiraling poll numbers with just over four months to go until Election Day.

There is frustration in Trump World over the president's lack of discipline and his confrontational tone during a time of high anxiety over the coronavirus and civil unrest around the death of George Floyd while in police custody.

Some Trump allies are worried that campaign manager Brad Parscale is in over his head. And there is sniping between pro-Trump outside groups about whether their money is best spent propping up Trump or tearing down presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

Ed Rollins, the chairman of the Great America PAC, a top outside group supporting the president’s reelection, said the course correction starts with Trump. He said the president faces certain defeat if he does not convey more compassion and focus on a message that expands his coalition to include women and independents.

“The message is weak or nonexistent. The rambling on about Biden and Pelosi or Clinton and Obama is old and tired. This needs to be about the future, not the past,” Rollins said.
Trump World boils over as campaign hits skids

(warning: one mild profanity by Trump supporter at link)

Lot of drama there.
M

 

[jgarden]

sometimes when people attack Trump it becomes necessary to provide a comparison just for the sake of honest perspective.

Attempting to punish this President's critics by establishing Senate Committees in the middle of a Pandemic, 5 months before the 2020 Election has all the characteristics of a "political cult" attempting to punish a prior Administration in retaliation for the Democrats pointing out the "sins" of the current Leader!

 

[The Barbarian]

Lot of drama there.

Yeah, the frequency of presidential tantrums is increasing.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

all the characteristics of a "political cult"

I haven't heard that one before.
Come on!
Anybody buying that?

Watch out for the "Cult in 2020."

M

 

[disciple Clint]

White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says
The research was the target of a conspiracy theory about the origin of the new coronavirus.
White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says

[quote[disciple Clint said: ↑
Do you want to go back and read all the things that Obama lied about

I'm thinking you probably should deal with the topic at hand. Or do you just want to avoid the topic and present a diversion?



Sorry, but "how much I hate the fact that Obama was a highly-respected president" isn't the topic. Try to address the actual one, or perhaps start a new thread on your issues.[/QUOTE]
As I recall you requested that I go ahead and post the lies of Obama, apparently you didn't realize just what an incredible volume of lies he told until it was put in front of you with undeniable evidence. And now you want to complain. Face the facts and move on.

 

[disciple Clint]

Attempting to punish this President's critics by establishing Senate Committees in the middle of a Pandemic, 5 months before the 2020 Election has all the characteristics of a "political cult" attempting to punish a prior Administration in retaliation for the Democrats pointing out the "sins" of the current Leader!

We will find out when the investigations are over so far it looks like there is more than just smoke but those who hate Trump would also hate an investigation that proved he has been correct all along about the Russia witch hunt.

 

[disciple Clint]

I haven't heard that one before.
Come on!
Anybody buying that?

Watch out for the "Cult in 2020."

M

Yes and when Trump gets reelected it will become a super cult.

 

[Evry'soul]

Isn't it only logical that the US should withdraw funding from a country who withheld information about a highly contagious disease that can induce death, long term complications, and can cripple an economy? China is continually untrustworthy and knowingly allowed the the disease to spread worldwide, while secretly buying up PPE inventories. China refused to acknowledge that they were the source of the disease, and intentionally thwarted critical WHO information, destroyed critical virus samples, and is suspected of killing or detaining drs who tried to warns us. They're not worthy of funding.

 

[disciple Clint]

Isn't it only logical that the US should withdraw funding from a country who withheld information about a highly contagious disease that can induce death, long term complications, and can cripple an economy? China is continually untrustworthy and knowingly allowed the the disease to spread worldwide, while secretly buying up PPE inventories. China refused to acknowledge that they were the source of the disease, and intentionally thwarted critical WHO information, destroyed critical virus samples, and is suspected of killing or detaining drs who tried to warns us. They're not worthy of funding.

Are you expecting people to accept logic when it contradicts their beliefs, you must be new to this site.