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So, because Obama didn't "end the Iraq war immediately upon becoming president, it puts the Benghazi post-fact lie about the events surrounding the deaths of 4 dead soldiers with the pre-war lie of WMDs which was used as grounds for war and led to thousands of deaths?

Both lies led to thousands of deaths. What's so hard to understand about that?
 
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Sure, if you put lying about what happened after the fact when 4 Americans were killed on equal footing with lying as justification for war in which thousands were killed.
Amazing isn't it that they equate an attack killing four people to a full out military invasion which killed thousands of American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraq people including innocent women and children.

Even more amazing it is to look past the president responsible for a war and blaming another president for not ending it the day he entered office.
 
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Both lies led to thousands of deaths. What's so hard to understand about that?
The thought process over equating a lie which gets us into a war to a failure to not get us out fast enough because he was running a timeline set forth by the initial liar. Bush kept soldiers in Iraq for years, while withdraw of Iraqi troops began 5 or 6 months after Obama became President. Not fast enough for you, was it, so you call it a lie. That is disingenuous.
 
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You mean the same war that Obama swore he would end as soon as he became president and didn't?
Are you saying that Obama promised to end the Iraq war immediately upon assuming office, that he would start evacuating troops on Jan 19?

Do you remember the protests all over the world to get him to keep his promise? I don't either.
Do you remember that he actually did end the Iraq war according to the timeline set forth?

The democrats only cared about the thousands who died in those wars when a republican was running the war.
You don't remember Vietnam then?
 
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Are you saying that Obama promised to end the Iraq war immediately upon assuming office, that he would start evacuating troops on Jan 19?

Do you remember that he actually did end the Iraq war according to the timeline set forth?

You don't remember Vietnam then?
That's what he said
You can take that to the bank
 
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Are you saying that Obama promised to end the Iraq war immediately upon assuming office, that he would start evacuating troops on Jan 19?

They have to take him literally because understanding that it takes time to draw down and withdraw from a war does not support the feigned outrage.
 
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They have to take him literally because understanding that it takes time to draw down and withdraw from a war does not support the feigned outrage.
When he said it was the first thing he would do and we could take that to the bank, he sure seemed to be speaking literally
 
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Oh ya, nothing means 'literal' more than saying 'you could take that to the bank'.

LOL

I know i was outraged. When Obama said "i can take it to the bank", i went to the bank, and they didn't accept his word as currency. That was when i knew this administration was the worst ever.
 
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I know i was outraged. When Obama said "i can take it to the bank", i went to the bank, and they didn't accept his word as currency. That was when i knew this administration was the worst ever.

Literally! :D

I wonder if Machzer0 also went to the bank and told them Obama was pulling out of Iraq on day 1?
 
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The thought process over equating a lie which gets us into a war to a failure to not get us out fast enough because he was running a timeline set forth by the initial liar. Bush kept soldiers in Iraq for years, while withdraw of Iraqi troops began 5 or 6 months after Obama became President. Not fast enough for you, was it, so you call it a lie. That is disingenuous.

This is hilarious, there is no reason he had to follow his predecessors plans.

He didn't need congress, he went into libya with zero oversight so there was nothing stopping him from pulling us out of Iraq.

Saying, "LAWL he's just doing what the loser before him put forward" isn't an excuse for not keeping your promise.
 
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Are you saying that Obama promised to end the Iraq war immediately upon assuming office, that he would start evacuating troops on Jan 19?
That's what he said he would do.

Do you remember that he actually did end the Iraq war according to the timeline set forth?
Which isn't what he said he would do.

You don't remember Vietnam then?
Are we pretending that the parties of today are like the parties of the vietnam era?
 
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This is hilarious, there is no reason he had to follow his predecessors plans.

He didn't need congress, he went into libya with zero oversight so there was nothing stopping him from pulling us out of Iraq.

Saying, "LAWL he's just doing what the loser before him put forward" isn't an excuse for not keeping your promise.

Other than the logistics of pulling out 100,000 (not sure of the exact # at the time) troops. Generally speaking, planning for something like that doesn't happen in a day, or even a couple of weeks.
 
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They have to take him literally because understanding that it takes time to draw down and withdraw from a war does not support the feigned outrage.

Because when he said, "If we aren't out of the Iraq war it's the first thing I'll do" really meant, "I"m going to do what the guy who got us into the war in the first place wanted to do".... funny nobody at the time thought that's what he meant.
 
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Because when he said, "If we aren't out of the Iraq war it's the first thing I'll do" really meant, "I"m going to do what the guy who got us into the war in the first place wanted to do".... funny nobody at the time thought that's what he meant.
And what did the bank say when you went there and told them the first thing Obama was going to do is get out of Iraq?

LAWL

Sorry, this is a rather small and feeble attempt to say Obama lied, and I cannot believe you continue to push it.

the semantics.
 
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Other than the logistics of pulling out 100,000 (not sure of the exact # at the time) troops. Generally speaking, planning for something like that doesn't happen in a day, or even a couple of weeks.
One day we are told Obama deserves no credit because he went on Bush's withdraw timeline, and the next he is trashed because he used Bush's timeline.

There is no pleasing some.
 
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And what did the bank say when you went there and told them the first thing Obama was going to do is get out of Iraq?
Bank? I believe you are very very confused.

Sorry, this is a rather small and feeble attempt to say Obama lied, and I cannot believe you continue to push it.
So when obama said he would get our troops out first thing he did you took that as saying that he meant he would do it when bush wanted it done?
 
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Bank? I believe you are very very confused.


:D Sorry that joke went right past you. How did you miss it after reading the last few posts?

So when obama said he would get our troops out first thing he did you took that as saying that he meant he would do it when bush wanted it done?
Actually, I went to the bank and they told me that Obama should follow Bush's timeline ;)
 
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