Which political party is more consistent with scriptural teaching?

[tulc]

both/neither.
tulc(hopes that helps)

 

[thecolorsblend]

We now have a majority conservative supreme court. I predict that abortion will be illegal within a year.

We should be so lucky.

 

[tulc]

We now have a majority conservative supreme court. I predict that abortion will be illegal within a year.

doubtful, the Republicans will never let it happen.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)

 

[Danoh]

What is your opinion on the subject? Make sure to explain your views.

The following is a kind of a bitter pill to have to swallow, but is well worth carefully reflecting on.

If, according to Scripture, life begins at conception and any life extinguished before reaching what some referred to as the age of accountability, automatically goes to Heaven, which group has inadvertently much more populated Heaven with millions of souls - those who teach the error that is works for salvation, or the abortionists, who inadvertently send all those little souls to Heaven before the error of work your way to Heaven gets its hold on them, condemning them to one day have to face God for not having rested in His Son's FINISHED work, in place of their own.

For according to Scripture, God wins out...

1 Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

Where the little ones are concerned, especially...

Matthew 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

And "sin is not imputed when there is no law." Romans 5:13 - meaning the little one's do not have sin accounted to them during that age in which they are simply unaware of right and wrong.

Thus, while I hold to Pro-Life, I am also well aware that the Pro-Choicers are inadvertently doing a better job at getting those little souls into Heaven, than all the Pro-Lifers who preach the error that is a works based salvation, in denial of the following.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, NOT imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

5:21 For he hath made him to be sin FOR US who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God IN HIM.

And there are far and away much more works salvationists condemning people to have to one day face God on their own works over that of His Son's FINISHED work ALONE, than the Eternally Secure, or "once saved, always saved" people within Christianity.

Talk about irony.

Then again, not.

In that it appears that in the end, God gets His way, regardless of either side's grave error.

Because Romans 5:6-11.

 

[RDKirk]

Jesus would vote Republican if he were a US citizen. The GOP is the pro-life party. What kind of savior would Christ be if he were pro-abortion?

Judging from His political stance when He was walking the earth, He would be an independent.

 

[RDKirk]

doubtful, the Republicans will never let it happen.

They'd lose there evangelical base when everyone had to start looking at the rest of the platform.

We see right here in this thread that the abortion issue is the only thing anyone cites in their favor.

 

[RDKirk]

Mark 16:15 says, "You can be a Christian and get saved, but make sure to keep your religion to yourself." Oh, wait. Wait a sec! It doesn't actually say that. Here is what it really says: "Go into the world and preach the Gospel to all creation." The Bible is clear that our faith isn't merely a private matter; it's something that should be spread and preached to all the world. That includes pro-life teachings from scripture.

You didn't actually respond to what Hazelelponi actually said.

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

I prefer it the way Jesus wants it. You want to replace His kingdom with some kind of official religion. The founders, almost to a man, thought that worship of God was essential to a civilized nation. And yet they vigorously opposed government involvement in religion. For the reasons Madison mentioned above. Establishment isn't just counter to God's will; it's destructive to society.

Living life during the Spanish Inquisition, a true time of godliness and holiness, would certainly be preferable to living in these profligate days of liberal democracies. Under a Christian clerical regime, the leaders of society are godly men whose guiding principle is the Word of God. They make laws and customs in accordance with heavenly scripture. Meanwhile, liberal democracies are concerned with homosexual marriage, abortion “rights,” and other immoral vices that they mistake for virtues (falsely calling it “human rights” and “equality”). Explain why my views are so bad if that’s what you think.

 

[RDKirk]

Living life during the Spanish Inquisition, a true time of godliness and holiness, would certainly be preferable to living in these profligate days of liberal democracies. Under a Christian clerical regime, the leaders of society are godly men whose guiding principle is the Word of God. They make laws and customs in accordance with heavenly scripture. Meanwhile, liberal democracies are concerned with homosexual marriage, abortion “rights,” and other immoral vices that they mistake for virtues (falsely calling it “human rights” and “equality”). Explain why my views are so bad if that’s what you think.

That's a Poe's Law example, right?

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

That's a Poe's Law example, right?

No, I’m a true pious Catholic who goes to mass every day, except for Mondays when my parish doesn’t hold mass. I’m a true godly person who admires the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, and traditional Catholicism. Why is that a so-called Poe?

 

[The Barbarian]

That's a Poe's Law example, right?

There is a lot of false material about the Inquisition available. It wasn't as grim as (for example) Cromwell's regime. But that was more than grim enough.

As Madison said, the experience of Europe was that establishment led to horror and evil, and did grave damage to the Church.

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

There is a lot of false material about the Inquisition available. It wasn't as grim as (for example) Cromwell's regime. But that was more than grim enough.

As Madison said, the experience of Europe was that establishment led to horror and evil, and did grave damage to the Church.

Your sources must be from liberal revisionists who want to castigate the Middle Ages as barbaric and backwards. Those days were actually the most godly of days during Christendom’s history.

 

[The Barbarian]

No, I’m a true pious Catholic who goes to mass every day, except for Mondays when my parish doesn’t hold mass. I’m a true godly person who admires the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, and traditional Catholicism. Why is that a so-called Poe?

The difficulty with being a true Poe, is one has to be as off-the-wall as possible, but not so far as to bring up suspicions that it's all a gag. That last one was enough to arouse suspicions.

 

[The Barbarian]

Your sources must be from liberal revisionists who want to castigate the Middle Ages as barbaric and backwards.

Burning people alive for disagreeing on theology probably was big reason. The fact that most Crusades kicked off with a massacre of local Jewish citizens might have had something to do with it as well.

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

The difficulty with being a true Poe, is one has to be as off-the-wall as possible, but not so far as to bring up suspicions that it's all a gag. That last one was enough to arose suspicions.

If you think the Spanish Inquisition was so barbaric, then why do you call yourself “The Barbarian”?

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

Burning people alive for disagreeing on theology probably was big reason. The fact that most Crusades kicked off with a massacre of local Jewish citizens might have had something to do with it as well.

There were abuses, no doubt. But don’t abuses occur everywhere? Look up the bombing of Dresden. The allies were supposed to be the good guys during WWII, but they bombed the German civilian population there into oblivion. It was a crime against humanity.

 

[Hazelelponi]

There were abuses, no doubt. But don’t abuses occur everywhere? Look up the bombing of Dresden. The allies were supposed to be the good guys during WWII, but they bombed the German civilian population there into oblivion. It was a crime against humanity.

No. It was just a crime against the citizens of Dresden.. there's a lot of humanity in the world it would be hard to commit a crime against all of them.

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

No. It was just a crime against the citizens of Dresden.. there's a lot of humanity in the world it would be hard to commit a crime against all of them.

My point is that abuses happen during war, whether it’s the “good guys” or the “bad guys” who commit the atrocities. It’s the same with the Crusades. They were good, holy, and pious Christians. But mistakes were made from time to time. Ultimately, they were on the side of God.

 

[RDKirk]

There is a lot of false material about the Inquisition available. It wasn't as grim as (for example) Cromwell's regime. But that was more than grim enough.

As Madison said, the experience of Europe was that establishment led to horror and evil, and did grave damage to the Church.

Madison got that from Roger Williams. The concept of separation of Church and State crossed the ocean to American thanks to Roger Williams' treatise "The Bloudy Tenent of Persecution, for the Cause of Conscience, Discussed in a Conference Between Truth and Peace."

It's a tough slog because it's written in King James English, but it's also where Jefferson cribbed "wall of separation between Church and State." But Williams (writing not long after the Thirty Years War, and just before the English Civil War) catalogs through history how Europe suffered through the entanglement of the Church with the necessarily unrighteous fallen-world actions of any government.

 

[The Barbarian]

If you think the Spanish Inquisition was so barbaric, then why do you call yourself “The Barbarian”?

It's an interesting story. On a particular board, there was this aggressive atheist who told me I didn't understand how "barbaric" Christianity is. I said "well, then just call me the barbarian."

And it stuck. You do know that barbarians were among the very first Christians, right?