Which political party is more consistent with scriptural teaching?

Which political party is more consistent with scriptural teaching?

  • The Republican Party

  • The Democratic Party


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jmldn2

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These are the same arguments that denounced Medicare, Medicare, Social Security, Obamacare and virtually every other social program introduced to bring America into the 21stC!

Where is the moral outrage at the $1 trillion+ "tax cut" for America's wealthiest all financed with borrowed money - it could be argued that this was tantamount to "socialism" for the wealthy!

"Jmldn" is merely parroting the 2020 Republican strategy to characterize the Democratic Party as "socialist" - to divert attention away from the embarrassing fact that they lost 40 seats in the House as a result of the 2018 Interims!


I am not "parroting" anything. All one has to do is to see, read, comprehend what the new Socialist Democratic Party is putting for now that they have the power in the House. I have made up nothing but I am seeing with my own eyes, reading with my own mind, and hearing with my own ears what the new democrats are spewing forth.
 
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It's hypocritical of any right wing Christian who supports Trump to point their judgmental finger at Democrats and accuse them of disintegrating into the abyss. It's hypocritical when these right wing Christians support a twice divorced admitted adulterous philander in his third marriage to his former mistress. They support a man who paid off a inappropriate content star during his campaign to silence her about their previous affair. They support a man who used vulgar language to brag about groping multiple women and he bragged about watching young teenage girls getting undressed during beauty pageants.

It's also hypocritical when these right wing Christians support a man who is well known and well documented for the lies he has told before and after he was elected to the presidency.

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It's truly laughable to see some right wing Christian Trump supporters boast about being more moral and point their judgmental finger at Democrats when they support and defend a man who said he's never asked God for forgiveness of his sins and who said he doesn't believe adultery is a sin.

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As far as I can concur, I can point my finger at any democrat who supports, late term abortion (murder) and after birth abortion, supports a coup against a sitting President legally elected to office, support harassing, persecuting, and daily denigrating the highest office in the USA. The hypocrisy is on the left every single day. Yet, add to that hypocrisy by telling me I as a citizen of the USA should be silent?
 
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The Democratic Party is the party of Socialism and they are definitely on their way to fascism.

Most Dems running for president are for--
-Medicare For All (lofty goal, but impractical unless you want YUGE tax hikes)
-Free College (college has gotten way, way too expensive)

When I went to college in the 90s, I worked FT and paid my way. You can't do that anymore at public colleges. Colleges have built expensive classrooms and expensive dorms, and, let's face it, professors are overpaid for teaching 4 classes a semester.

I agree wholeheartedly we need to do something about college debt. College debt is now bigger than what Americans owe on credit cards. That has lead to grads putting off families, home purchases, big ticket items for those homes, etc. for 20 years of their careers. That is going to be a big drain on the economy in the years to come.

But, I have no idea what to do about it.

College and Medical Care has risen so fast over the last 30 years in costs both are unsustainable.

Colleges are going to have to cut expenses, plain and simple, before we toss them more tax money.

The biggest expenditure in Medicare is the last 6 months of life--it is 50% of Medicare disbursements, and even private insurance costs. Unfortunately, tough choices are going to have to be made on what Medicare pays for and what it can no longer afford. Experimental things and extreme measures are going to have to fall to private insurance policies or out of pocket even if you have Medicare. It's sad, but is going to have to become reality. And, yes, something is going to have to be done about drug costs in the USA. This buying cheap drugs and jacking prices is one thing I'd say should be made illegal.

ObamaCare was a mistake in one big respect: it cut out choice.

Yes, some plans were worthless and should've been outlawed as the scams they were. But, there was no reason to get rid of people just wanting plans for major medical and hospitalization. It also saddled people with huge deductibles that only allowed upper middle class and above to use the plans. The Dems blew it, plain and simple.
 
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People who think the Democrats are for socialism either do not know what Democrats want or do not know what socialism is.

Conservatives use the s-word today the way conservatives in the south used the n-word when I was small.

It's a boogeyman.
 
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Ive heard many democrats use the n word.

When I was small, conservatives used the n-word in public speeches.

It's the boogeyman they use to keep their voters fearful. The point is: "Scare them with a boogeyman that the other guy is going to let catch them, but I'm their great protector."
 
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The Democratic party was the party of the KKK.

As has been covered many times, the Democrat party was the party of the KKK. Those were largely Southern Democrats who left and joined the Republican Party in the 60s and 70s. Now white supremacists affiliate with the Republican party.
 
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As has been covered many times, the Democrat party was the party of the KKK. Those were largely Southern Democrats who left and joined the Republican Party in the 60s and 70s. Now white supremacists affiliate with the Republican party.

Actually, the vast majority of those Democrats, the "Dixiecrats," never did join the despised "party of Lincoln."

They just eventually died off by the end of the 80s and their children joined the Republican Party.
 
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Conservatives use the s-word today the way conservatives in the south used the n-word when I was small.

It's a boogeyman.

I heard the n-word used by conservatives in the predominantly white southern town I grew up in. I heard the same conservatives call Native Americans 'drunken injuns' and call Mexicans wetbacks.
 
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As has been covered many times, the Democrat party was the party of the KKK. Those were largely Southern Democrats who left and joined the Republican Party in the 60s and 70s. Now white supremacists affiliate with the Republican party.

The Republican party was first to help the black community and to set them free from slavery. Then to help them get the right to vote. White supremacists have nothing to do with the Republican Party.
 
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The Republican party was first to help the black community and to set them free from slavery. Then to help them get the right to vote. White supremacists have nothing to do with the Republican Party.
The unabashed white supramacists who support the Republican Party beg to differ with you.

And, Republicans did all that good stuff before they implemented the southern strategy, which was blatantly racist and a 180 degree turn from their prior values vis-a-vis race.
Southern strategy - Wikipedia
 
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The unabashed white supramacists who support the Republican Party beg to differ with you.

And, Republicans did all that good stuff before they implemented the southern strategy, which was blatantly racist and a 180 degree turn from their prior values vis-a-vis race.
Southern strategy - Wikipedia


Lol, while you point your finger to the "white supremacists" whom you say support the Republican Party, that does not mean the GOP supports them. As well, take a look at the radical left and anti-law and anti-constitutionists in the Democratic party. If you want to call out radicalism, begin with that party first.
 
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Lol, while you point your finger to the "white supremacists" whom you say support the Republican Party, that does not mean the GOP supports them. As well, take a look at the radical left and anti-law and anti-constitutionists in the Democratic party. If you want to call out radicalism, begin with that party first.

I agree there are radicals on the left too.

And, your initial post didn’t say that the GOP supports racists - you claimed that it had nothing to do with racists.

That being said, there are elected GOP officials who are racist, such as Steve King and, of course, Trump.
 
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The unabashed white supramacists who support the Republican Party beg to differ with you.

And, Republicans did all that good stuff before they implemented the southern strategy, which was blatantly racist and a 180 degree turn from their prior values vis-a-vis race.
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

The flip-flop of the moral base of the parties actually took the bulk of the 20th century.

It's certainly true that the Republican Party was formed from proto-libertarian northern industrialists and a northern Evangelical moral base formed--for different reasons--to abolish slavery.

After their initial purpose had been completed in the latter half of the 19th century, the Evangelicals went on to further Progressive pursuits (and, yes, they called themselves "Progressives" at the time). Those pursuits included prison reform, labor condition reform, environmental conservationism, gender equality, and continued racial reconciliation.

However, those Progressives began to butt heads against the proto-libertarian industrialists on those labor condition reform issues, so that by the beginning of the 20th century, the Progressives pulled out of the Republican Party to form the Progressive Party (aka Bull Moose Party, headed by Theodore Roosevelt).

All along, since before the Civil War, the Democrats had continued to be social regressives in every way that the Progressives were progressive: Prison reform, labor condition reform, environmental conservationism, gender equality, and continued racial reconciliation.

At any rate, the Republican Party glided through the first half of the 20th century with nothing but its industrial side, which was firming up their Libertarian concepts. But that was not an election-winning composition for a party.

The Progressive Party alone wasn't winning elections either, so it infiltrated the Democrats from the north, as the moral opposition to the Libertarian industrialists, championing causes such as labor condition reform.

By the third quarter of the 20th century, the Democratic party was fully schizophrenic, progressive in the north and regressive in the south. That was the situation when the Republican party began to use its "southern strategy" when Barry Goldwater (who at heart was a Libertarian, not a segregationist) was so opposed to the Civil Rights Act on Libertarian grounds that he was willing to ally himself with segregationists to fight it.

Then the Republicans once again regained a "moral" base when it was joined by Dixiecrats of the so-called Moral Majority. Eventually in the 80s they'd gain--for the first time--Catholics over the abortion issue as well as reaction to Affirmative Action in the northeast.

But be sure to note: The old Dixiecrats of the 50s, 60s, and 70s would refuse actually to join the "Party of Lincoln" and would die as Democrats regardless of how they actually voted or the regressive causes they supported. It would be their children who would actually sign on to the Republican party roles in the 80s and 90s.

So the flip-flop started at the close of the 19th century and wasn't completed until nearly the close of the 20th.
 
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The unabashed white supramacists who support the Republican Party beg to differ with you.

And, Republicans did all that good stuff before they implemented the southern strategy, which was blatantly racist and a 180 degree turn from their prior values vis-a-vis race.
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

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I agree there are radicals on the left too.

And, your initial post didn’t say that the GOP supports racists - you claimed that it had nothing to do with racists.

That being said, there are elected GOP officials who are racist, such as Steve King and, of course, Trump.

That word "racist" has been thrown around so much by the left that it has lost its meaning. Just another byword to support their mantra. Trump is not a racist but keep on spreading that around. If I belonged to the present democratic party, I'd either leave it or never let anyone know I was a member. This party has sunk so low that JFK would never align with its current "projects." The worse thing the democrats have done lately is to support abortion up and even after birth.
 
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I agree there are radicals on the left too.

And, your initial post didn’t say that the GOP supports racists - you claimed that it had nothing to do with racists.

That being said, there are elected GOP officials who are racist, such as Steve King and, of course, Trump.

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