Where is Kamala Harris?

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Of course, how else would they pay their debt?

It's also worth pointing out their debts aren't owed to human smuggling networks run by Mexican drug cartels. People don't seem to realize exactly who is profiting from these policies
 
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Does it not destroy or diminish the lives of the people already in need in the USA? Are they, who are citizens and have paid taxes, going to have their employment prospects and even necessary government assistance reduced so that people who have no stake in the USA, have paid nothing into our welfare, etc. systems, but who need food, clothing, housing, and so on and can get it from our government?

And how "Christian" is it when those in government who constantly claim to be the ones helping our poor and disadvantaged, instead make them poorer and more disadvantaged...and all because the newcomers are expected to vote for the political party of the officeholders who are doing this?
Exactly! I'm sure these migrants are eager for the free healthcare, education, housing vouchers, food stamps and much more Joe Biden has promised them if they make it. Once they get here, you can bet the Biden administration plans to give them voting rights. Is this really about the Biden administration loving their neighbor or is this manufactured crisis an attempt to change the demographics of the United States in order to give permanent power to the Democratic Party?
 
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It's also worth pointing out their debts aren't owed to human smuggling networks run by Mexican drug cartels. People don't seem to realize exactly who is profiting from these policies
Oh my, hopefully those imigrants will be able to pay their debts to the mexican drug cartels. Otherwise the cartel might call the police on them.
 
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Exactly! I'm sure these migrants are eager for the free healthcare, education, housing vouchers, food stamps and much more Joe Biden has promised them if they make it. Once they get here, you can bet the Biden administration plans to give them voting rights. Is this really about the Biden administration loving their neighbor or is this manufactured crisis an attempt to change the demographics of the United States in order to give permanent power to the Democratic Party?

I know republican like to say democrat want free healthcare, education , housing and everything free government has to offer. But it seems like 70% US economy comes from the county which vote Democrat. I wonder how Republican county/ state which only contribute 30% US economy make a living.


Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America’s economy. What does this mean for the nation’s political-economic divide?
 
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I know republican like to say democrat want free healthcare, education , housing and everything free government has to offer. But it seems like 70% US economy comes from the county which vote Democrat. I wonder how Republican county/ state which only contribute 30% US economy make a living.


Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America’s economy. What does this mean for the nation’s political-economic divide?

That is because the wealthiest 1% (the ones the Democrats love to reference), pay 40% of Taxes collected by the government. The top 5% pay 60%

How is that fair?

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IOW - the 30% that you are speaking of (both Democratic and Republican) are middle class and below, who contribute 30%.

The multi billion dollar healthcare industry is making that 1% wealthier by the moment regardless who is paying for the health care. Why not want government run healthcare - the government pays more for goods and services than the public, so it is more money in their pockets while making them look like heroes.

IMHO - it shows that the Democrats pander to the uber wealthy and Republicans to the middle class and poor.
 
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That is because the wealthiest 1% (the ones the Democrats love to reference), pay 40% of Taxes collected by the government. The top 5% pay 60%

How is that fair?

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IOW - the 30% that you are speaking of (both Democratic and Republican) are middle class and below, who contribute 30%.

The multi billion dollar healthcare industry is making that 1% wealthier by the moment regardless who is paying for the health care. Why not want government run healthcare - the government pays more for goods and services than the public, so it is more money in their pockets while making them look like heroes.

IMHO - it shows that the Democrats pander to the uber wealthy and Republicans to the middle class and poor.

Here is the federal dependency by state. Other then New Mexico, top 9 states are Red state.

Return on Statehood: How Much Value Every State Gets From the Federal Government

2021’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States – SIPA News
 
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Wait a minute. The point was that the wealthiest Americans DO pay their share, and probably more than that. The story we always hear about them as a group successfully avoiding taxes is a partisan myth.

And to this, you responded by saying that the poorer states are Republican states??????????? How does that change anything about which class pays what percentage of its income in taxes?
 
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Wait a minute. The point was that the wealthiest Americans DO pay their share, and probably more than that. The story we always hear about them as a group successfully avoiding taxes is a partisan myth.

And to this, you responded by saying that the poorer states are Republican states??????????? How does that change anything about which class pays what percentage of its income in taxes?

Point is wealthiest Americans are democrat and reside in Blue state. They pay higher taxes yet they vote democrat. On the other hand, people who receive the most federal funding, they complaining about everyone else( mostly democrat) are living on government and free stuff.
 
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Not disputing that - it does not change my post.

Point is wealthiest Americans are democrat and reside in Blue state. They pay higher taxes yet they vote democrat. On the other hand, people who receive the most federal funding, they complaining about everyone else( mostly democrat) are living on government and free stuff.

Not too sure about that assertion that the wealthiest Americans are Democrats. I have not seen a breakdown. But certainly glad you are admitting they pay higher taxes. Something the Democratic leadership refuses to admit.

Also please understand that many of these wealthy have no problem with government give a ways be cause they become wealthier through the give a ways. The government uses our tax money to pay for them. They gain wealth through the government purchasing their goods and services, typically at a much higher rate than retail.
 
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Point is wealthiest Americans are democrat and reside in Blue state

Not the top ten:

WHO IS RICHER? DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS? THE ANSWER PROBABLY WON’T SURPRISE YOU.

BY JENNY SMEDRAON AUGUST 19, 2020 ~


AMERICA’S TOP 10 RICHEST FAMILIES
    1. Walton– Republican — The family owns the Walmart corporation. The Walton family fortune is estimated to be about $130 billion.
    2. Koch– Republican — Businessmen, owners of Koch Industries, a manufacturing company. Koch brothers have a net worth of about $41 billion each ($82 billion together).
    3. Mars– Republican — Own the Mars candy company. The three children of founder Forrest Mars are worth about $78 billion together.
    4. Cargill-MacMillan– Republican — The Cargill-MacMillan family owns 90 percent of the largest privately-owned corporation in the U.S. The family, as a whole, is worth about $49 billion.
    5. Cox– Democrat — The Cox family owns a number of auto consumer sites and services (Kelley Blue Book, AutoTrader.com, etc.). They have an estimated net worth of $41 billion.
    6. Johnson (S.C. Johnson)– Republican — The Johnson family is known for their cleaning products and hygiene products. They are valued at $30 billion.
    7. Pritzker– Both — Founders of Hyatt. The family has a combined value of $29 billion in 2017.
    8. Johnson (Fidelity)– Republican — Overseers at Fidelity, ensuring the cash of millions of Americans. The family has a combined net worth of $28.5 billion.
    9. Hearst– Republican — The Hearst family owns one of America’s largest media companies. The family is valued at $28 billion.
    10. Duncan– Republican — The Duncan family works mostly with oil and pipelines. The family is valued at about $21.5 billion.

Interesting to note the list if for wealthiest families and leave out Bezos - Democratic
Gates - Democratic and Elon Musk - not Democratic.​
 
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Oh my, hopefully those imigrants will be able to pay their debts to the mexican drug cartels. Otherwise the cartel might call the police on them.

Wow...you're clueless on how this works, huh?

Read some articles. Look for ones that ask illegals how much it costs them to get into the US.
 
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My question is what happened to the “ big beautiful wall” which Mexico paid to built.
Biden stopped funding and building it. What happened to Trump's "stay in Mexico" policy?
 
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Wait a minute. The point was that the wealthiest Americans DO pay their share, and probably more than that. The story we always hear about them as a group successfully avoiding taxes is a partisan myth.

And to this, you responded by saying that the poorer states are Republican states??????????? How does that change anything about which class pays what percentage of its income in taxes?


QFT - we have a winner, you are now promoted to Captain obvious. One side of the mouth is saying that the wealthy do not pay high taxes while the other side of the mouth says the wealthy pay high taxes.
 
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