Where Are The Techs??

Tiffanya · Mar 19, 2008

It appears that CF is flooded by "bugs"? So many members reporting these so called "bugs" day in and day out, only to get a response such as: "It happens to me too" or "it works fine for me".

I understand that mods, supervisors are not terchs and just reply to posts - so where are the techs?

I am almost certain that features not working are NOT due to "bugs" but more to the way they are set out (wrong).

Sorry for "butting in", but it is very frustrating to have to put up with features that don't work and nobody seems to be doing anything to rectify them.

End of what I had to say

I'ddie4him2 · Mar 20, 2008

Tiffanya said:
It appears that CF is flooded by "bugs"? So many members reporting these so called "bugs" day in and day out, only to get a response such as: "It happens to me too" or "it works fine for me".

I understand that mods, supervisors are not terchs and just reply to posts - so where are the techs?

I am almost certain that features not working are NOT due to "bugs" but more to the way they are set out (wrong).

Sorry for "butting in", but it is very frustrating to have to put up with features that don't work and nobody seems to be doing anything to rectify them.

End of what I had to say

It can be frustrating to say the least.
I came across an announcement of sorts somewhere here that CF is going to new software and servers soon.
That may be part of the issues lately.

I'll see if I can locate it again.

Here it is. http://christianforums.com/a3

Tiffanya · Mar 20, 2008

I'ddie4him2 said:
It can be frustrating to say the least.
I can across an announcement of sorts somewhere here that CF is going to new software and servers soon.
That may be part of the issues lately.

I'll see if I can locate it again.

Here it is. http://christianforums.com/a3

Thank you for having the courtesy to reply to my post - still haven't heard from anyone else.

May God bless you and thanks for the link.

Naxus · Mar 20, 2008

Tiffanya said:
Thank you for having the courtesy to reply to my post - still haven't heard from anyone else.

May God bless you and thanks for the link.

Yes,whats the point of reports if no action is going to be taken?

Tiffanya · Mar 20, 2008

Naxus said:
Yes,whats the point of reports if no action is going to be taken?

Makes one wonder huh? lol

Naxus · Mar 21, 2008

Lol'der!

I'ddie4him2 · Mar 21, 2008

Tiffanya said:
Thank you for having the courtesy to reply to my post - still haven't heard from anyone else.

May God bless you and thanks for the link.

My pleasure.
If nothing else, maybe pm mnphysicist ??
He might be able to answer your questions.

To be honest, I have been having problems myself.
I think once the new software and servers are switched, Things will be much better.

Nomenclature · Mar 21, 2008

http://christianforums.com/a397

CF will be upgrading to a newer version of Vbulletin soon. This likely will result in CF being offline for a bit, sometime within the next couple weeks or so. When I know the timing in greater precision, I'll let folks know.
Apart from the core software upgrade, many new and cool features will be implemented. No doubt there will be a few bugs as we go live, and a number of things will seem strange. However, overall, the new version is much much nicer, and easier to use. It also reduces the strain on the servers substantially.
A few things:
1. CF characters stay, although upgrades in functionality will occur down the road a bit.
2. CF pets will be quite different, although it appears the underlying database will remain. Not completely sure.
3. The guestbooks and profiles are way different, and much more powerful than the current ones.
4. The navigation will be changing to hopefully make it easier for new members.
5. Skins and color schemes will be changing.
6. Major updates to CF radio and internet TV will likely be a new feature

Gwenyfur · Mar 21, 2008

the delay is this...

the current version we are using is so outdated and most of the "features" taht were added by the former owner of the site were nothing more than ameteur hacks on the software...

this has made the code not only bulky but server intense...

With the change of owners, and report policies, and staff changes and and and and

the hacked code is so bulky that the pros we have for techs now are just shaking their heads...

the new owner has gone to great expense to purchase the *latest* version of VB and some truly *awesome* features addons for both members and staff.

But, as will all bugets....we must choose...
do we want to "fix" the current issues?

or

do we want to solve the problem of "hacked" software and do a complete upgrade?

Personally, I'm willing to tolerate a few more bugs for a while to get the upgrade.

Tiffanya · Mar 22, 2008

Gwenyfur said:
the delay is this...

the current version we are using is so outdated and most of the "features" that were added by the former owner of the site were nothing more than ameteur hacks on the software...

this has made the code not only bulky but server intense...

With the change of owners, and report policies, and staff changes and and and and

the hacked code is so bulky that the pros we have for techs now are just shaking their heads...

the new owner has gone to great expense to purchase the *latest* version of VB and some truly *awesome* features addons for both members and staff.

But, as will all bugets....we must choose...
do we want to "fix" the current issues?

or

do we want to solve the problem of "hacked" software and do a complete upgrade?

Personally, I'm willing to tolerate a few more bugs for a while to get the upgrade.

Thanks a lot for your explanation. I would personally put up a post, and let members know that you are all aware of the many bugs. Also let them know that it is pointless fixing anything as there will soon be an upgrade with new features etc.....

Good luck with it all, will be praying for a smooth change over when it happens - and when will that be?

MMXII · Mar 22, 2008

Gwenyfur said:
the current version we are using is so outdated and most of the "features" taht were added by the former owner of the site were nothing more than ameteur hacks on the software...

Ouch! Dr. Loh put a lot of time and money in this place. To call that amatuer I think is a low blow. Just sayin'

RedTulipMom · Mar 22, 2008

Gwenyfur said:
the delay is this...

the current version we are using is so outdated and most of the "features" taht were added by the former owner of the site were nothing more than ameteur hacks on the software...

this has made the code not only bulky but server intense...

With the change of owners, and report policies, and staff changes and and and and

the hacked code is so bulky that the pros we have for techs now are just shaking their heads...

the new owner has gone to great expense to purchase the *latest* version of VB and some truly *awesome* features addons for both members and staff.

But, as will all bugets....we must choose...
do we want to "fix" the current issues?

or

do we want to solve the problem of "hacked" software and do a complete upgrade?

Personally, I'm willing to tolerate a few more bugs for a while to get the upgrade.

It would have been so nice if this was explained by the owner to all of us months ago. For months now there have been tons of bugs and nobody doing anything and it has been frustrating and has appeared that nobody cared. All the threads in bug reports have never been responded to by techs or the owner. The bug report forum should have been closed down months ago if they were going to just wait to do anything for months. Thanks so much for FINALLY explaining this situation..how hard would it have been for someone to explain it months ago ???

Gwenyfur · Mar 23, 2008

MMXII said:
Ouch! Dr. Loh put a lot of time and money in this place. To call that amatuer I think is a low blow. Just sayin'

LOL if you say so....but I don't know a professional worth his salt that coudl take the 20 pages of hack and do the same job without bugs in only 2-3 pages.

It wasn't a "low blow" or an insult...it's a fact of life when it comes to programming...

RedTulipMoon said:
It would have been so nice if this was explained by the owner to all of us months ago. For months now there have been tons of bugs and nobody doing anything and it has been frustrating and has appeared that nobody cared. All the threads in bug reports have never been responded to by techs or the owner. The bug report forum should have been closed down months ago if they were going to just wait to do anything for months. Thanks so much for FINALLY explaining this situation..how hard would it have been for someone to explain it months ago ???

Can't tell what I don't know about

However mnphysicist did put up an announcement of the upgrades just a couple days ago...link is up in I'ddie's post

as for when??? Well they're workin' on setting a coordinated time but I figure within the next couple of weeks based on current progress...

Richard · Mar 22, 2008

I work this forum religiously and half the bugs people report are one time instances. There is only one tech that is paid on Christian Forums and he does a lot of other forums, he doesn't have the time to post in the Report Bugs Section. Hence, we had a Community Tech Liaison who did the posting for him, as have I. Once the upgrades happen, a lot of these bugs will go bye bye.

MMXII · Mar 23, 2008

Gwenyfur said:
LOL if you say so....but I don't know a professional worth his salt that coudl take the 20 pages of hack and do the same job without bugs in only 2-3 pages.

It wasn't a "low blow" or an insult...it's a fact of life when it comes to programming...

Well I for one appreciate all the time, effort and money that Dr. Loh put into this place...this place that you are being so flippant about, this place that wouldn't be if it were not for he. I know that when there were bugs reported he took care of them. We didn't have to wait months just for an answer. I would appreciate if you and the rest of the naysayers around here would remember where this site came from.

Naxus · Mar 23, 2008

RichardMac said:
I work this forum religiously and half the bugs people report are one time instances. There is only one tech that is paid on Christian Forums and he does a lot of other forums, he doesn't have the time to post in the Report Bugs Section. Hence, we had a Community Tech Liaison who did the posting for him, as have I. Once the upgrades happen, a lot of these bugs will go bye bye.

You are mis informed, these are are not one time things for many have reported these many times things and to no avail. If the Techs cant fix it then we should go to the next stage. How hard is it to fix these one time bugs as you stated? Please don't be flippant about this.

Naxus · Mar 23, 2008

RichardMac said:
I work this forum religiously and half the bugs people report are one time instances. There is only one tech that is paid on Christian Forums and he does a lot of other forums, he doesn't have the time to post in the Report Bugs Section. Hence, we had a Community Tech Liaison who did the posting for him, as have I. Once the upgrades happen, a lot of these bugs will go bye bye.

You are mis informed, these are are not one time things for many have reported these many times things and to no avail. If the Techs cant fix it then we should go to the next stage. How hard is it to fix these one time bugs as you stated? Please don't be flippant about this.

Naxus · Mar 23, 2008

Many are waiting for months now and not getting any answers except for flippant remarks that would suggest that the complainants are OTL. If this is how they solve problems that are presented to them, then i better not hold my breath. Attacking the attacker is not always the best defense, just saying. Wink, wink.

Naxus · Mar 23, 2008

Many are waiting for months now and not getting any answers except for flippant remarks that would suggest that the complainants are OTL. If this is how they solve problems that are presented to them, then i better not hold my breath. Attacking the attacker is not always the best defense, just saying. Wink, wink.

Gazelle · Mar 23, 2008

Please go to this link to read about site being down . . . Please Remember today is Easter Sunday . . . Thank You Very Much . . .

Please reference this thread.

There are still kinks to work out after the Server Malfunction. Hopefully everything will be squared away in a few days Please be patient, as today is Easter Sunday. As you may notice, when I post, they are out of order also

Tiffanya said:
It appears that CF is flooded by "bugs"? So many members reporting these so called "bugs" day in and day out, only to get a response such as: "It happens to me too" or "it works fine for me".

I understand that mods, supervisors are not terchs and just reply to posts - so where are the techs?

I am almost certain that features not working are NOT due to "bugs" but more to the way they are set out (wrong).

Sorry for "butting in", but it is very frustrating to have to put up with features that don't work and nobody seems to be doing anything to rectify them.

End of what I had to say

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