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Where American Political Parties Lay on the Global Left-Right Spectrum

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by iluvatar5150, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. iluvatar5150

    iluvatar5150 Newbie

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    Interesting analysis here:
    Opinion | What Happened to America’s Political Center of Gravity?

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  3. Occams Barber

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    As an outsider none of this is surprising. I have always seen American political parties as collectively shifted well to the right compared to the Australian spectrum. From what I know of the UK spectrum the same applies. I'm less familiar with Europe but I get the impression that they are also similar - particularly the Scandinavian countries.

    As an example, our right wing (the Liberal Party) supports the idea of government managed, single payer, universal healthcare and a range of social safety net programs which would probably qualify as 'socialism' in a US context. The left (Labor Party) obviously also supports these programs. Left/Right disagreement would typically be based on the level of funding and entry qualification rather than the programs themselves. In broad terms the right is seen as the party of (small) business while the left has strong ties with Trade Unions.

    Like the US, our right leans Christian, but to nowhere near the same extent as the US right. This reflects the country as whole, where Christianity is not seen as particularly important. In the last Census 52% self identified as Christian but very few of those are active participants.

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  4. SoldierOfTheKing

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    One would think that a “global” spectrum ought to include more than just North America and Europe
     
  5. Radagast

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    That's always been true: traditionally the right-wing parties in Australia have had very similar policies to the Democrats.

    However, as the article points out, the Democrats seem to have steadily been moving further left in recent times.
     
  6. Radagast

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    That too. I'm astonished that Australia and NZ aren't included. And that still wouldn't make it "global."
     
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  7. Radagast

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    Ironically, that cartoon says the complete opposite to what the NY Times analysis says. In fact, the Republicans are in the about same place, but the Democrats have moved further left.
     
  8. Pommer

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    So Ike was about as far to the Right as is Trump?
    Have you ever seen the 1956 Republican platform?
     
  9. Radagast

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    I was talking about recent movement, which the cited article discusses.

    If you want to go way back in time, the Democrats used to be the pro-slavery party, so they've actually moved even further.
     
  10. MorkandMindy

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    That graph shows Hillary Clinton to the Left of Donald Trump. Their actions show otherwise, but I don't think either of them wanted to make a big thing out of it as that would risk losing their own core supporters and with it the election.
     
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    As for actual policies (bold in the OP) Hillary Clinton spoke personally to a dozen banks for large fees reassuring them that, basically she was their 'man'. Given the activities of the banks over the last 100 years that would scare the socks off any socialist, and indeed any sane person on the planet.
     
  12. iluvatar5150

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    The analysis is of stated policies, not actions. I haven’t noticed a significant shift in Republican platforms, despite their increasingly nutty behavior.
     
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