When Whites Were Slaves in Africa

[cow451]

By people to people you mean.

Race is just a social construct.

Is bigotry a social construct?

 

[KarateCowboy]

Can you say "tu quoque"?

It's more about pespective, really.

 

[lismore]

Much of the Muslim world continued to practice slavery well into the twentieth century - and it only stopped due to Western pressure. But what of it? Slavery only matters if white people can be blamed for it.

I believe several countries in the middle east still practise slavery.

 

[Daniel1611]

Roughly half of Europeans who landed in the New World were arriving as slaves or became slaves when they arrived. There was a lot of white slavery in Africa and America.

 

[DaisyDay]

White slaves in early America were primarily indentured servants with limited forced servitude. Black slaves were not only slaves for life, but their children and children's children inherited the forced servitude. I think there is a significant difference between seven years and seven generations of slavery.

 

[TerranceL]

White slaves in early America were primarily indentured servants with limited forced servitude. Black slaves were not only slaves for life, but their children and children's children inherited the forced servitude. I think there is a significant difference between seven years and seven generations of slavery.

Uh. No.

The Irish Slave Trade ? The Forgotten ?White? Slaves | Global Research

The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.

 

[SolomonVII]

Slavery was finally discredited by Christians and Christian understandings of freedom.
As Christianity wanes in global influence, it is not unsurprising that ancient patterns of slavery are reemerging.

 

[Grafted In]

By comparison, only about 388,000 Africans were sold as slaves to the US. The remainder ended up in the Carribean or South America.

Of course your mileage may vary.

Slavery in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TerranceL]

Slavery was finally discredited by Christians and Christian understandings of freedom.
As Christianity wanes in global influence, it is not unsurprising that ancient patterns of slavery are reemerging.

Slavery never went away what are you talking about?

The US isn't the whole world. lets not forget it was christians killing other christians to free slaves.

 

[SolomonVII]

Slavery never went away what are you talking about?

The US isn't the whole world. lets not forget it was christians killing other christians to free slaves.

It did go away in the sense that it became illegal globally, even in Saudi Arabia by 1960. The only ones trafficking in slaves by that time were criminals, whereas 100 years before respected members of a society had no moral qualms on having slaves.

And, as was apparently completely missed in the post quoted, along with the total fabrication that that post somehow focused just on America, is that Christians with Christian values are what stopped the global slave trade, not just in Bugswat Alabama, but on the High Seas.

With the wane of Christian values, we can expect to see what we are seeing in Islamic States, where the slave markets are now open once again for business by the movers and shakers of the societies that they rule, and not just by criminals.