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When, Oh when, will Congress act?

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Albion, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:58 PM.

  1. Albion

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    Tallahassee: Multiple People Wounded in 'Massive Stabbing' at Business

    Where is the mandatory buy-back of all kitchen utensils? Why isn't Beto touring lunchrooms in order to inform himself of the cost of knives? And why, oh why, are there no mandatory background checks on people who want to buy silverware, allegedly (yeh, right) as "wedding gifts?"

    It's frustrating.
     
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  2. GoldenBoy89

    GoldenBoy89 We're Still Here

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    When mass stabbings reach the frequency and kill count of mass shootings in a year, we can talk.

    Notice it only says “wounded”.
     
  3. Arcangl86

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    Or when people start cooking and eating their meals with guns.
     
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  4. Der Alter

    Der Alter This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    Quote me some official statistics then we can talk.
    I guess that side will start confiscating knives and and other weapons once the US is totally disarmed, then those who will still have firearms i.e. police and criminals can do anything they want. just like they do in Russia, China, No. Korea etc.
    That is why our forefathers included this in the Constitution "The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms will not be infringed."
    The M-16 has been around more than 50 years. In Viet Nam in '68 as a pilot I carried a .38 caliber revolver but all my soldiers carried M-16s. So why is it that suddenly 50 years later the M-16 is responsible for all the mass shootings? What changed? The M-16 didn't.
    In '66 the "Texas tower" mass shooter killed 17 people and wounded 11 others, he did not even have an M-16.
    In 2001 Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people and injured 680 people with a truck load of fertilizer. I didn't see mass hysteria demanding that fertilizer be banned.
     
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  5. GoldenBoy89

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    I would but reading the rest of your comment tells it’d be pointless to take the time.
     
  6. JohnAshton

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    People do kill people, with guns.

    Any fallacy of false equivalency argument of comparing equitably the killing efficiency of guns with knives can be thrown away as ignorance porn.
     
  7. FenderTL5

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    A number of countries, including Germany, Colombia, Ireland, the Philippines and China, have banned ammonium nitrate fertilizer. And some U.S. states started to regulate its use after the chemical was used in the Oklahoma City bombing.

    Congress seeks new rules on explosive fertilizer
     
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  8. durangodawood

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    Good thing that guy only had a knife and not guns!
     
  9. Der Alter

    Der Alter This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    Cop-out. Truth hurts doesn't it? I never say anything I can't back up.
     
  10. Der Alter

    Der Alter This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    Where can I find some information on this, other than Congress?
     
  11. GoldenBoy89

    GoldenBoy89 We're Still Here

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    Call it what you want. I lost hope we’d ever address the problem when we let children die in their classrooms and did nothing about it. If you all want to hold up this one event as a sort of checkmate in the gun debate, you’re more than welcome to do that.
     
  12. Nithavela

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    Not as efficient as using a gun, but it's the thought that counts.
     
  13. hislegacy

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    You carried a SW Victory .38 and not an M1911??

    Why?
     
  14. essentialsaltes

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    I know you're impatient, but you really shouldn't try this kind of thing until there's an incident where someone actually dies.
     
  15. Nithavela

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    Which might take a while, considering how hard it is to kill people with knifes if they're fighting back and you don't know what you're doing.
     
  16. Der Alter

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    That was the standard issue weapon for pilots. The .38 is double action it can be drawn and fired with one hand and I did so more than one time. The .45 requires two hands to place a round in the chamber to be fired. A helicopter requires at least one hand on the controls at all times. There is no autopilot.
     
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  17. Der Alter

    Der Alter This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    What remedy do you recommend, that has not been done? How would new more restrictive gun laws keep guns out of the hands of criminals? AK-47s are not made in the U.S.
    It seems a number of the senators/congressmen wannabes want mandatory gun confiscation, in violation of the second amendment. In the event that happens how do they plan to get criminals to turn in their guns?
    The only recourse I can see is to have armed police go into every home/building in the U.S., illegally, search for and confiscate guns.
    And when that happens what is next? What is the next thing our benevolent "government" decides we the people should not have and the U.S. Gestapo raids our homes to confiscate?
    "It can't happen!" Think again. In the 40s our benevolent government decided everyone of Japanese ancestry was a potential enemy so they rounded them up, stuck them in prison camps and confiscated all their property.
    If only the police have guns which is the next group to be rounded up?

    Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Kommunist.
    Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
    Als sie die Gewerkschaftler holten,
    habe ich nicht protestiert;
    ich war ja kein Gewerkschaftler.
    Als sie mich holten,
    gab es keinen mehr,
    der protestierte.
    Martin Niemöller 1946

    When the Nazis came for the Communists,
    I kept silent;
    after all, I wasn't a Communist.
    When they locked up the Social Democrats,
    I kept silent;
    after all, I wasn't a Social Democrat
    When they came for the trade unionists,
    1 did not protest;
    After all, I wasn't a trade unionist.
    When they came for me,
    there was no one left
    who protested


     
  18. Der Alter

    Der Alter This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    A knife attack every 4 minutes; 130,000 per year - but ...
    Knives were used in 14,000 robberies last year More than 350 people are the victim of knife assaults every day in England and Wales.[Link v]
    A knife attack every 4 minutes; 130,000 per year - but ministers still insist crime rates are falling | Daily Mail Online
     
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  19. Tanj

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    Now is not the time to politicize this tragedy. My thoughts and prayers to the stabbed.
     
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  20. DaisyDay

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    You left off the part about the militia being well REGULATED.
     
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