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God does not change (Malachi 3:6)
neither does Jesus (Hebrews 13:8)
no, heaven is not going to make male-male romantic relationships not sin. Not when they're an abomination declared by God this entire time.

Yes. That’s correct. But males and females are identified by their spirit in eternal life because their bodies are like angels. Angels don’t have beards like men and breast’s like women. These are only symbols pointing us to spiritual aspects.
 
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Yes. That’s correct. But males and females are identified by their spirit in eternal life because their bodies are like angels. Angels don’t have beards like men and breast’s like women. These are only symbols pointing us to spiritual aspects.

But Jesus still did. He was still resurrected as a male, not an angel.
The verse you talk about, we don't become genderless like Angels, Jesus meant that we would be immortal like Angels, that was all.
 
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But Jesus still did. He was still resurrected as a male, not an angel.
The verse you talk about, we don't become genderless like Angels, Jesus meant that we would be immortal like Angels, that was all.

:wave: I hope this might be of some help. Thanks for reading.

Dear Bride of Christ
 
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:wave: I hope this might be of some help. Thanks for reading.

Dear Bride of Christ

I understand what you're trying to do but.. for me, it's more important that the character of God is consistent, a foundation, a rock, immutable, than even me being sad about the idea of an eternity without experiencing eros love.
Because eros love man with man, doesn't exist for starters, and the idea itself is sin.
so is the idea that males are at all feminine.
or that Jesus is somehow feminine because being a man, if He was effeminate, that'd be sin.
My unhappiness about something is wholly and utterly irrelevant, my being happy at all is irrelevant. I am irrelevant, next to the character and person of God.

To destroy God's image by altering it to make Him female, or to destroy His plan by making me somehow female, is at odds with God's word and God Himself, it borders on gnosticism, on eastern mystcism, and co I have a hard time not calling it outright blasphemy.
Because who God is, is more important than any theory, any secret knowledge we think we have, and we have to take our knowledge of God from His word.
I'd strongly reconsider this idea of a personal SEXUAL relationship with God.
 
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I understand what you're trying to do but.. for me, it's more important that the character of God is consistent, a foundation, a rock, immutable, than even me being sad about the idea of an eternity without experiencing eros love.
Because eros love man with man, doesn't exist for starters, and the idea itself is sin.
so is the idea that males are at all feminine.
or that Jesus is somehow feminine because being a man, if He was effeminate, that'd be sin.
My unhappiness about something is wholly and utterly irrelevant, my being happy at all is irrelevant. I am irrelevant, next to the character and person of God.

To destroy God's image by altering it to make Him female, or to destroy His plan by making me somehow female, is at odds with God's word and God Himself, it borders on gnosticism, on eastern mystcism, and co I have a hard time not calling it outright blasphemy.
Because who God is, is more important than any theory, any secret knowledge we think we have, and we have to take our knowledge of God from His word.
I'd strongly reconsider this idea of a personal SEXUAL relationship with God.

:wave: That's why Jesus said no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born again. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3:6. Our physical appearance won't define us in the new creation. You are talking about the body and mind but I've been referring to the spirit.

Jesus is a man because of who He is in the spirit. He is the Son of Man and bridegroom, there won't be another. His faith is strong, our faith is weak. Every human has the same spirit, male or female. But the believers have a renewed spirit and it is the same in all believers. The Holy Spirit gives birth to the Spirit of Christ in you. That's how we become Christ-like. Have you had that experience of being born again and felt like a new being?
 
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:wave: That's why Jesus said no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born again. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3:6. Our physical appearance won't define us in the new creation. You are talking about the body and mind but I've been referring to the spirit.

Jesus is a man because of who He is in the spirit. He is the Son of Man and bridegroom, there won't be another. His faith is strong, our faith is weak. Every human has the same spirit, male or female. But the believers have a renewed spirit and it is the same in all believers. The Holy Spirit gives birth to the Spirit of Christ in you. That's how we become Christ-like. Have you had that experience of being born again and felt like a new being?

Yeah and.. our spirits are male and female too. we're not meant to be physical OR spiritual we're meant to be physical AND spiritual. That is why we have a bodily resurrection. God is not satisfied with us being just spiritual beings as He Himself is not just a spiritual being, He is also physical in Jesus Christ. We are His image, and that image is BOTH spiritual and flesh. You shouldn't want to just be a spirit because that is not God's plan or design.
Being male or female is core to who we are as identity. That's why gender dysphoria is such a sad mental illness, because those people have a warped view of their own spirit. People kill themselves over that, it's more than just body parts or physical image.
My spirit is still a man.
 
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Yeah and.. our spirits are male and female too. we're not meant to be physical OR spiritual we're meant to be physical AND spiritual. That is why we have a bodily resurrection. God is not satisfied with us being just spiritual beings as He Himself is not just a spiritual being, He is also physical in Jesus Christ. We are His image, and that image is BOTH spiritual and flesh. You shouldn't want to just be a spirit because that is not God's plan or design.
Being male or female is core to who we are as identity. That's why gender dysphoria is such a sad mental illness, because those people have a warped view of their own spirit. People kill themselves over that, it's more than just body parts or physical image.
My spirit is still a man.

We are clearly at different ages, spiritually. God’s love is a whole package. It lacks nothing. His Word speaks to it. He becomes our everything. He loves us in every way and He wants all our love. His love is deeper and better than any parent or spouse can ever offer. Each love comes at a certain age/time/place as we grow in our spiritual life. And that's good.

May the Lord reveal His love toward you and bring you joy even as you journey towards Him. :) His love comes first. We can only respond to that love when it comes in His perfect time for each believer. The marriage of Christ and union with Him would then be understood as it should.

“When I passed by you again and saw you, behold, you were at the age for love, and I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your nakedness; I made my vow to you and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Lord God, and you became mine. Ezekiel 16:8

The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” John 3:8

Behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak tenderly to her..., And there she shall answer as in the days of her youth,... And in that day, declares the Lord, you will call me ‘My Husband,’... And I will betroth you to me forever,... And you shall know the Lord. Hosea 2:14-20
 
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We are clearly at different ages, spiritually. God’s love is a whole package. It lacks nothing. His Word speaks to it. Father comforts us like a father; Holy Spirit comforts us like a mother; Son comforts us like a friend, brother, and a husband. It’s deeper and better than any parent or spouse can ever offer. Each love comes at a certain age/time/place as we grow in our spiritual life. And that's good.

May the Lord reveal His love toward you and bring you joy even as you journey towards Him. :) His love comes first. We can only respond to that love when it comes in His perfect time for each believer. The marriage of Christ and union with Him would then be understood as it should.

“When I passed by you again and saw you, behold, you were at the age for love, and I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your nakedness; I made my vow to you and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Lord God, and you became mine. Ezekiel 16:8

The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” John 3:8

Behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak tenderly to her..., And there she shall answer as in the days of her youth,... And in that day, declares the Lord, you will call me ‘My Husband,’... And I will betroth you to me forever,... And you shall know the Lord. Hosea 2:14-20

Can't help but think you're influenced by Eastern Religions where you have genderless and gender fluid gods.
 
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Can't help but think you're influenced by Eastern Religions where you have genderless and gender fluid gods.

Yeah, that's because you've put God in a box and it never ceases to pain you. If you know God’s love, Jesus' words in Matthew 22:30 wouldn't make you sad, you wouldn’t be so broken nor be a curse to any woman. We can’t fix ourselves. May you experience His love as we do.
 
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Yeah, that's because you've put God in a box and it never ceases to pain you. If you know God’s love, Jesus' words in Matthew 22:30 wouldn't make you sad, you wouldn’t be so broken nor be a curse to any woman. We can’t fix ourselves. May you experience His love as we do.

Denigrating God's character or His design is more painful.
 
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Denigrating God's character or His design is more painful.

It is. All pain, brokenness, and curse come from misinterpreting God. But the one who hears the word and understands it bears fruit. Matthew 13:23. That is joy, peace, and contentment as Truth brings healing, blessing, and freedom. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. A bruised reed He will not break, and a smoldering wick He will not quench. He is the Messiah, our kinsman-redeemer. :)
 
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It is. All pain, brokenness, and curse come from misinterpreting God. But the one who hears the word and understands it bears fruit. Matthew 13:23. That is joy, peace, and contentment as Truth brings healing, blessing, and freedom. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. A bruised reed He will not break, and a smoldering wick He will not quench. He is the Messiah, our kinsman-redeemer. :)

Okay but you are denigrating God's character by having an effeminate Jesus, a genderless Jesus, etc.
God says being effeminate as a man is sin.
Jesus never sinned, nor would He sin after His ascension.
 
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Okay but you are denigrating God's character by having an effeminate Jesus, a genderless Jesus, etc.
God says being effeminate as a man is sin.
Jesus never sinned, nor would He sin after His ascension.

The glory, beauty, and power of Jesus captivate us that we would even forget ourselves before Him. Gender doesn't come between us and God. Nothing can separate us from His love. Like I said you are misinterpreting what I said. That's fine. May God bless you.
 
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