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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Markwsmith2020, Oct 20, 2017.

  1. Markwsmith2020

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    The Millenial Kingdom, with Jesus on the Throne of David, comes after the final 3.5 years of the Tribulation. It is the Kingdom established for those Jews who acknowledged Jesus as the Promised Messiah. It will include those who were martyred during the Trib.
     
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  3. Markwsmith2020

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    Don't believe in a 1000 yr kingdom, can't take it literally, cos of the gospel, lk 1 His kingdom will have NO end
     
  4. Winken

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    "He [the Messiah] will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High --- and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever; and His Kingdom will have no end." (Luke 1:32- 33).

    The Jewish Messiah received the Throne of David and will reign over the House of Jacob forever; and His Kingdom will have no end.

    Who? The Jewish Messiah, in the line of David, reigning over the House of Jacob. Which Kingdom? Those of the Jewish Messianic faith who will be called forth from death to inhabit that Kingdom. (Those within that Kingdom will have confessed Jesus as Messiah). In the end, the Kingdom established for them, along with the Body of Christ, will be restored in the New Heaven and New Earth.
     
  5. Original Happy Camper

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    Are you referring to the Kingdom that is a stone cut out without hands in Nebuchadnezzar's dream?
     
  6. gadar perets

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    The 1,000 years is literal and will end, but the Kingdom will not. After the 1,000 years ends, the Kingdom will be returned to Father YHWH who gave it to Yeshua (1 Corinthians 15:24-28). It will continue under YHWH's rule with Yeshua in submission to his Father YHWH.
     
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  7. Markwsmith2020

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    The kingdom, the vineyard, the new and eternal covenant, the church, the new or heavenly Jerusalem, the household of faith, the body of Christ are all the same, the church founded by Jesus Christ Matt 16:18
     
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    It's not literal, there is no end
     
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    What do you mean "in the end the kingdom will be established" it started 2000 yrs ago, read the gospel especially Matt, the kingdom of God is at hand,
    Matthew 12:28
    But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

    Matthew 19:24
    And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
    Matthew 21:31
    Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
    Matthew 6:33
    But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.h ow can you seek something that does not exist, and Jesus is the king of kings so the kingdom must also exist.

    Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
     
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    Hi Mark,

    The `kingdom` of God is His rulership. Now it all depends on who God is speaking to. God`s rulership we all know will reign on earth. Then also God`s rulership will reign in the New Jerusalem (which is at the present in the third heaven. Heb. 12: 22) and then there is God`s rulership through the Body of Christ which will be taken to its eternal setting in heaven.

    So God`s `kingdom rule` will be in all dominions and all under the rulership of the glorified, exalted Lord Jesus Christ.

    regards, Marilyn.
     
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    Hebrews 3:12-15 See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness. 14 We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end. 15 As has just been said: “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion.

    Jesus could have equivalently said that the King here standing at the door and knocking.
     
  12. PeaceJoyLove

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    The kingdom is not an over here or over there that comes by observation for it is within you. It is an internal truth revealed by the spirit...the five senses cannot perceive it...

    Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
     
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    Hi PeaceJoyLove,

    Yes, the kingdom rule of God through Christ is in our hearts at the moment, and still wonderfully His rulership will come on earth physically over the nations, by His people Israel and through out the Universe by others for those positions.

    regards, Marilyn.
     
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    What's not literal, the 1,000 years or the Kingdom? What has no end, the 1,000 years or the Kingdom?
     
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    The spiritual Kingdom is within believers because its King is in believers. We enter the Kingdom through its King. However, there is a literal Kingdom that is yet to come in which the King and those who received him will literally rule over the nations that do not believe.

    Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

    Matthew 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    Luke 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

    Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

    1Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

    2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Master Yeshua Messiah, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

    2 Peter 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
    2 Peter 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Master and Saviour Yeshua Messiah.

    Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
    Revelation 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

     
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    The kingdom of heaven is here already. Scripture says the Kingdom of heaven is at hand. So it's as close as the air you breath. Watching you, helping you, hoping that you turn your heart to it and serve the kingdom.
     
  19. Markwsmith2020

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    Matt 16:18 Peter has the Keys to the kingdom it must exist, I must be the church the new or heavenly Jerusalem gal 4 our mother
     
  20. Markwsmith2020

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    Gadar how can there be more that one king or more than one kingdom lk 1 His kingdom (singular) there shall be no end
     
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