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Featured When did Jesus die and come back to life?

Discussion in 'Christian History' started by ChristianForCats, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. ChristianForCats

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    Am I the only poster who cares about this?
     
  2. Unnamed Guy

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    Jesus died about sundown. The empty grave was found Sunday morning, so he rose Saturday about sundown. Count back three days and three nights and you find he died Wednesday about sundown. The passover that year was on a Thursday. The passover sabbath took precedence over the weekly sabbath. People have been confused for thousands of years because there were two sabbaths that week.
     
  3. Original Happy Camper

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    These verses may help you all in understanding the timing of Jesus death and resurrection.

    John 19
    14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: (noon) and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
    15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
    16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
    17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:
    18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.
    30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.


    Mark 15
    32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.
    33 And when the sixth hour (noon) was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.
    34 And at the ninth hour (three o'clock in the afternoon) Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    John 19
    31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
    32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
    33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
    40 Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury.
    41 Now in the place where he was crucified there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid.
    42 There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation day; {evening of the sixth day of the week)

    Matthew 28:1
    In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

    Jesus before PIlate on the preparation day (friday, sixth day of the week) before noon (sixth hour)
    Jesus dies at the Ninth hour on preparation day (Friday, preparation day, sixth day of the week)
    Jesus laid to rest in the tomb on the preparation day (Friday, preparation day, sixth day of the week)
    Jesus rested in the tomb on the Sabbath Day (Saturday, Seventh day of the week)
    Jesus Rises on the first day of the week (Sunday)

    Scripture is clear on the timing if this historical event.

    Genesis 1:5
    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
     
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  4. Unnamed Guy

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    It is interesting to study the history of calendars. There are solar calendars and lunar calendars. We have had Gregorian calendars and Julian calendars. Calendars in ancient Rome were largely political grandstanding. Emperors would name a month after themselves, July and August for example, and then steal a day from one of the other months to make "their" month longer. In those days the year had ten months and that is how September, October, November and December got their names: the names mean "Seventh, Eighth, Ninth and Tenth." Nobody wanted to name a winter month after themselves.

    The Jewish calendar is a lunar calendar and to this day goyim are not sure how to count it. Of course some of them are totally sure, but they can't agree with each other. It gets really silly when they try to calculate the date of Easter on a modern calendar. The silliest part is that it has to be on a Sunday, a day of no spiritual significance.
     
  5. Yeshua HaDerekh

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    That is impossible for a number of reasons. Also, He resurrected anytime after sunset on the Sabbath (Saturday). Stop making this 72hr timeline a thing, because it isn't...
     
  6. Yeshua HaDerekh

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    That is why that was NOT the paschal full moon...
     
  7. Yeshua HaDerekh

    Yeshua HaDerekh Men can dream of truth, but then cant live with it

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    No, if He was taken down before sunset, it was still that same day. After sunset would be the beginning of the next day.
     
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  8. Yeshua HaDerekh

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    The day of preparation was on Yom Hashishi (Friday the 14th) when He died at 3 PM. He was buried before sunset. He rested in the tomb on Shabbat (that Sabbath was also a "high day", the 15th) and rose after sunset on the 1st day of the week (sunday the 16th) on Yom HaBikkurim.
     
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  9. Unnamed Guy

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    It certainly is a thing. The bible says in several places "three days and three nights". That equals 72 hours and any other figure calls God and Jesus liars.
     
  10. ChristianForCats

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    The Bible does not state anywhere how many hours Jesus was dead.
     
  11. Unnamed Guy

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    Under Roman law a person was not legally dead until the body was in the grave three days and three nights. If Jesus had died on Friday and risen on Sunday he would not have been legally dead.
     
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  12. ChristianForCats

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    But Jesus did not die in Rome, so that law is irrelevant.
     
  13. Oscarr

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    I did miscalculate. Jesus and the disciples had the last supper on the Wednesday night. Jesus was crucified on the Thursday and the Passover was on Thursday night. One of the mistakes some have made was that they concluded that the last supper was the Passover, which it wasn't. It if was, the gospel writers would have made that quite clear. So, if Jesus was crucified at around midday on the Thursday, and rose on the following Sunday morning, then it was three days and three nights as the gospels say.
     
  14. ChristianForCats

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    Jesus was crucified at 12:00 and died at 3:00.

    People think The Last Supper was the start of Passover because the next day was Passover. What they do not think about is the Preparation Day part, indicating the traditional Passover seder must have occured a day later.There is no mention of the apostles having such a meal after Jesus was crucified.
     
  15. Oscarr

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    As I said in my previous post, the last supper was not the Passover. The Passover was the day after. So the disciples would have eaten the Passover on the Thursday night. The Friday was the preparation day for the Saturday Sabbath, so the three on the crosses would have to be taken down Thursday night. The women would have prepared the spices for the the body on the Friday, but could not go to the tomb on the Saturday because it was the Sabbath. So the soonest they could get to the tomb would be Sunday morning.
     
  16. Oscarr

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    Being faithful Jews, they would certainly have observed the Passover on the night after Jesus was put in the Tomb, even though the gospels don't mention it.

    If the gospels say that Jesus spent three days and three nights in the tomb, then that is exactly what happened. The Holy Spirit is not wrong. He would not inspire the writers to say it if it was not accurate. And Jesus Himself said that as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the fish, so He would be three days three nights in the grave and then rise from the dead. Jesus would not have said anything other than what was accurate and true.
     
  17. ChristianForCats

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    Which means Jesus could not have died on a Friday. You circled back to my original post.

    Your comment about the women waiting until Sunday morning to see Jesus at the tomb supports the idea he died on a Wednesday at rose on a Saturday night.

    BTW you have a cute kitty.
     
  18. Oscarr

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    Ahh! Judaea was a Roman province under a Roman governor, so it was subject to Roman law. Jewish law applied only to the religious and moral observances. When Paul, while being attacked by the Roman mob in Jerusalem, said to the Roman soldier that he was a Roman citizen, he was immediately rescued, because by Roman law, Roman citizens when under threat, have to be protected. And that is what happened in Jerusalem under Roman law.
     
  19. prodromos

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    72 hours makes it impossible for Jesus to have risen "on the third day". It is you who is calling Jesus a liar.
     
  20. Oscarr

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    My view is that the last supper was on Wednesday night, the 4th night; Jesus was crucified around midday on the Thursday, and died at around 3pm and was put in the tomb. The Passover was on Thursday night, Preparation day Friday. Sabbath Saturday, the empty tomb Sunday morning.
     
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