When anyone sins grievously for years ....

[yeshuaslavejeff]

... against his wife, parishioners or members, children, and members on this forum/site,

has anyone found a solution ?

(apparently totally without repentance, blaming us (members of the forum), blaming Jesus, blaming God, cursing, denouncing Jesus, denouncing Christianity,,, )

 

[HTacianas]

... against his wife, parishioners or members, children, and members on this forum/site,

has anyone found a solution ?

(apparently totally without repentance, blaming us (members of the forum), blaming Jesus, blaming God, cursing, denouncing Jesus, denouncing Christianity,,, )

Mat 18:15 - “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

Mat 18:16 - “But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Mat 18:17 - “And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Mat 18:15 - “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

Mat 18:16 - “But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Mat 18:17 - “And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

THis has been posted for a while , 'before all the forum members' (a lot more than two or three witnesses) ....
and now false claims being made by the so-called minister of stalking, etc ....
So I don't know anything else that could be done ..... (on this forum)

 

[Carl Emerson]

... against his wife, parishioners or members, children, and members on this forum/site,

has anyone found a solution ?

(apparently totally without repentance, blaming us (members of the forum), blaming Jesus, blaming God, cursing, denouncing Jesus, denouncing Christianity,,, )

Been a believer???

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

What I would do is realize he's a human like the rest of us. Even leaders sin/mess up. It's up to him on what to do next.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Been a believer???

I don't know if I can post more - he is claiming stalking, and refusing to talk with pretty much anyone who offers true help... and in this forum, and the foul things he said he did while married, and his disrespecting Jesus now, and Christianity overall...
I am at a loss of what to do if anything on this forum....

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Been a believer???

He claimed to be a minister with over 50 affairs against his wife, and more.
(on this forum last month).

Mat 18:15 - “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

Mat 18:16 - “But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Mat 18:17 - “And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

This is seemingly the best direction,
but I don't know if the forum permits this or not.

 

[Carl Emerson]

He claimed to be a minister with over 50 affairs against his wife, and more.
(on this forum last month).

This is seemingly the best direction,
but I don't know if the forum permits this or not.

Open dialogue with the mods and talk it through?

 

[RaymondG]

This is akin to dragging out of the prostitute to be stoned........is it not?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

This is akin to dragging out of the prostitute to be stoned........is it not?

No, not at all.

Except as Jesus told her: Go and SIN NO MORE.

.... lest her condition end up worse than before....

 

[RaymondG]

No, not at all.

Except as Jesus told her: Go and SIN NO MORE.

.... lest her condition end up worse than before....

So it is ok, if I drop my stones and condemn not?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Open dialogue with the mods and talk it through?

< shrugs > don't know..... never saw it accomplished by anyone or even tried... or even referred to, not that I remember .....

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

So it is ok, if I drop my stones and condemn not?

< shrugs > why were you going to condemn ?

 

[Carl Emerson]

God saves to the uttermost but Paul expelled those in serious sin - removing the sanctity of the church over them in the hope they would suffer to the point of finding repentance - scripture records a case of this being successful.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

why were you going to stone someone ? !

So it is ok, if I drop my stones and condemn not?

 

[RaymondG]

< shrugs > why were you going to condemn ?

Cause one was claim to be promiscuous and brought out into the open to be viewed and examined by we who call ourselves more righteous than they. I thought it normal to, then, find a nice smooth stone to throw...... Why else would they have been brought out into the open?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Cause one was claim to be promiscuous and brought out into the open to be viewed and examined by we who call ourselves more righteous than they. I thought it normal to, then, find a nice smooth stone to throw...... Why else would they have been brought out into the open?

Ask them. THey posted it last month, on the 19th I think. Openly. And today without repenting they posted a lot of horrible anti-Jesus stuff again. , openly...

Why do you call yourself more righteous than the wicked sinners ?

 

[RaymondG]

Ask them. THey posted it last month, on the 19th I think. Openly. And today without repenting they posted a lot of horrible anti-Jesus stuff again. , openly...

Why do you call yourself more righteous than the wicked sinners ?

It just seemed that one would not shine a spotlight on another they deemed just as holy as themselves. This is usually the mark of one who esteems themselves higher than the on which the light is being shined.

nevertheless...This is my advice to you:

"He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

It just seemed that one would not shine a spotlight on another they deemed just as holy as themselves. This is usually the mark of one who esteems themselves higher than the on which the light is being shined.

nevertheless...This is my advice to you:

"He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."

Your posts are not making any sense here.
No one said that that one was ever holy at all.

Yes, he that is unjust is unjust still.

That is the problem as he puts it, and far far worse than that , as he puts it himself.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

This is usually the mark of one who esteems themselves higher than the on which the light is being shined.

Was that how you felt, when you indicated you wanted to stone him ?