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Look at the history of Islam, and Christianities history.

It is like the difference between Catholics and Protestants, you will find some saying that the other side aren't really Christian, but most admit to being the same. Christianity is just a sect of Judaism, I mean, look at our langauge (We are the Spiritual Israel, we are going home to Zion, etc). In fact, initially they mostly worshiped in synogogues.

Good muslims think that Christ turns water into wine and walked on water and fed the 5000/etc. There are many Christians who don't even think that!

Muhammed or whatever, just said that he was the final prophet or something, and said that Christians got things a bit wrong and Christ was a prophet and not the son of God. Now, I agree that muhammed was wrong, but he was building from Jewish/Christian background (And mixed it with Arabian mysticism).

It has nothing to do with PC. It has everything to do with history and development.

Jon miller

this might be a good reference for this discussion http://www.apologeticsindex.org/i07ab.html
 
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Look at the history of Islam, and Christianities history.

It is like the difference between Catholics and Protestants, you will find some saying that the other side aren't really Christian, but most admit to being the same. Christianity is just a sect of Judaism, I mean, look at our langauge (We are the Spiritual Israel, we are going home to Zion, etc). In fact, initially they mostly worshiped in synogogues.

Good muslims think that Christ turns water into wine and walked on water and fed the 5000/etc. There are many Christians who don't even think that!

Muhammed or whatever, just said that he was the final prophet or something, and said that Christians got things a bit wrong and Christ was a prophet and not the son of God. Now, I agree that muhammed was wrong, but he was building from Jewish/Christian background (And mixed it with Arabian mysticism).

It has nothing to do with PC. It has everything to do with history and development.

Jon miller
What definitive language! History and development is wonderful, so long as you understand it. The doctrinal differences between Christian sects (Catholicism and protestantism, etc...) are based on a mutual grounding (Christ in Christian - Christ as the cornerstone of the faith), whereas the Muslim faith is centered around a totally different archetype and pattern (Christ is by far not the cornerstone, and in fact, Mohammad is closer to that position in the religion). It's somewhat absurd to claim that Islam was based on the same background purely due to aesthetic similarity when fundamentally, Islam is nothing like Judaism or Christianity.
 
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Do you feel offended? Grateful? Could you care less? Does it matter what their beliefs are? I know that obviously a lot of Christians wouldn't like it if a satanist prayed to satan for them, but what about a Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Paganist, or someone who is just spiritual in general? This question is for Christians.

I would interpret it as a gesture of kindness, and thank them.
 
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Depends on their faith. If they were Abrahamic (as in one of the "Christian" heretical groups, Jewish, or Muslim), then I wouldn't have as many problems with it as I would with a pagan. Why? Because my church got wind of a pagan coven who was praying for the pastoral staff - or rather, against it.
 
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I think Michael has a little of what I like to call humility. I think everyone should try it... see what happens.

I am not going to apologise or feel bad for believing that my God is the real one.

I am not being proud about it. Its not a matter of pride, its a matter of faith. I asked Michael that question because I genuinely want to know the answer, he is one of my friends on here so I think he knows that I am asking him out of friendly concern.
 
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I am not going to apologise or feel bad for believing that my God is the real one.

I am not being proud about it. Its not a matter of pride, its a matter of faith. I asked Michael that question because I genuinely want to know the answer, he is one of my friends on here so I think he knows that I am asking him out of friendly concern.
I'd be inclined to believe my God is the right one too, but that's not absolute proof.
 
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Exactly. It is faith, not absolute knowledge. And if it is faith, the other deities that people believe could be right. But don't concern yourself. I took no offense at your stance. :hug:
 
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personally, unless it was a jew (or obviously a christian), i wouldnt want people praying for me and me knowing about it. Im sure they mean well, but they aint prayin to God, so i would rather avoid any spiritual issues that they could be summoning. Besides, its not like it can have very much effect, as the bible says so many times, their stones and statues cant save them.
 
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I don't post for a few days and when I come back the singles forum is invaded by heretics!! :unbelievable:

lets see we got people saying christians can't prove their faith, that jews and muslims pray to the same God and that he hears prayers from all faiths.


quite frankly some of you need to remove your little cross icons claiming you as christians and replace them with agnostic or deist or something.
 
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Exactly. It is faith, not absolute knowledge. And if it is faith, the other deities that people believe could be right.
....faith? What's faith? Believing something for no particular reason? :confused: Nobody has absolute knowledge about anything; that concept gets tossed around like a football on Sunday.
 
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Do you feel offended?

No. Never.

frenzy said:
Grateful?

Yes. That would mean that I have a friend who cares for me enough to offer up supplication on my behalf.

frenzy said:
Could you care less?

No. I wouldn't shrug it off. It means a lot to me. I would hope that I would be praying for them, too. My own personal beliefs are related insomuch that I understand that kind of spiritual petition, but it is not at the expense of their understanding.

I hope that makes sense.

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Does it matter what their beliefs are?
I don't have friends with outrageous beliefs in the Wickerman, so no, it wouldn't generally matter.
 
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I appreciate friends who care enough for me to offer up prayers on my behalf, but if they're not Christians, I would prefer that they simply offer words of encouragement on their own. I won't go off on someone for saying, (for example) "I'm praying to Allah for you", but I'll simply smile, thank them, and let that be that.

The reason I would prefer they not pray for me is this:

Proverbs 28:9
If anyone turns a deaf ear to the law, even his prayers are detestable.

Romans 10:4
Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

So, Christ is the completion of the law. That means that if anyone turns away from Christ, then their prayers will be detestable. Christ is, in essence, the law.

It follows, then, that the only prayers that will be answered are those prayed by Christians who are following righteousness. If we--even as Christians--are living in our sin without the conviction of the Lord on our conscience, our prayers fall on deaf ears, except those prayers that obviously show that we are convicted of our sin.

I would not want someone praying to "the same God" when they don't believe in His Son, because I would not want them bringing even more condemntation upon themselves.

If a drunk showed up at a wedding before the ceremony, people would already be condemning of the fact that they are drunk. If, then, that drunk attempted to take the minister's role in marrying the couple, he would bring even more condemnation upon himself.

Similarly, a non-Christian is already facing the brunt of God's wrath. He brings only more condemnation upon himself through trying to utilize communication reserved for a Believer and God.

If a non-Christian attempts to pray to their own god, they're praying to Satan essentially, and thus they bring condemnation upon themselves in that way.
 
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The law is love, for God is love and his son died for love. It is important to love others and tolerate them, even when they don't know God, they will know the love that they receive from you. This light in a world of lovelessness will only make them curious of its source in you. You can tell them, when they ask.
 
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Do you feel offended? Grateful? Could you care less? Does it matter what their beliefs are? I know that obviously a lot of Christians wouldn't like it if a satanist prayed to satan for them, but what about a Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Paganist, or someone who is just spiritual in general? This question is for Christians.
I'd be cool with anyone praying for me (unless of course they worship the devil). I look at it this way, maybe God will still hear them. Perhapse they just call God by a different name and worship differently but, love God all the same wether they might believe in one or many dieties
 
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1. Muslims do not worship the same God as Christians do. That's a very common misconception, but it's not true. Islam says God doesn't live in Heaven but exists everywhere at once and has no form, man wasn't made in His likeness, we should 'submit' to God rather than love Him

Christianity doesn't teach that God has a form. If God has a form, then either God limited Himself in creating that form or something created that form for Him. God can exist in Heaven and be present everywhere at once- as Jesus existed in 1st Century Israel while God was in Heaven.
 
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Do you feel offended? Grateful? Could you care less? Does it matter what their beliefs are? I know that obviously a lot of Christians wouldn't like it if a satanist prayed to satan for them, but what about a Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Paganist, or someone who is just spiritual in general? This question is for Christians.

God put into each person a desire to know Him. Without Christian revelation, people have created religions and concepts of God in order to satisfy that. When people pray to "their God" they are calling upon that inner pull towards God. It doesn't matter what they know of God or what they can guess about Him- they are reaching out from that part of their soul that cries out to God.

So no, I don't care. I think it's nice. God hears all prayers and answers them according to His will.
 
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